New Harvard Research Says US Christianity Not Shrinking but Growing Stronger

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  1. JakeStarkey

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    You choose to ignore that you can't prove that deity does not exist.

    you thinks :) that because you can't prove differently that someone else is less capable of thinking objectively

    'coganitive' is spelled 'coginitive'

    thinking such as yours is also exemplifies confirmation bias
     
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    playin' and someone went with it

    cognitive is the proper spelling

    acting like a far righty for a moment made my head ache :)
     
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    Christianity has waxed and waned over time. It started with, what, 12 apostles? It's been very successful. Science takes us very far, but not far enough. Google. George Le Maitre.

    If you can start a better and more successful movement, have at it.
     
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    You have been offered a chance to state facts about your beliefs and have consistently failed to do so.

    Talk about embarrassing, you cannot even support your own claims yet insist others prove their own claims.

    Down right religious of you.
     
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    They do research to prove whatever the ones paying them tell them to prove. Not actual research when the outcome is pre-ordained.
     
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    Not quibbling the title was a lie trying to pretend there was implied sanction by Harvard University. Seen this tactic before.

    And if you look at the charts in the article they prove conclusively that religious influence is shrinking.
     
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    Already answered above.

    Not really. I doubt you read it.
     
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    Should be easy for the resident atheists to do that, make up some stories, then have people die for those lies, then have that false story take over the most advanced society of its time.
     
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    What you suggest has already been done by the Christians. Atheists have o interest in dominating all other people. That is a theist thing.
     
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    Yes actually I did and we have debunked this silly article before. There is no actual evidence snywhere in the article or anywhere else that Christianity is getting stronger in America. What the authors did was basically try to explain away the facts of declining Christian church attendance by confusing a lot of the non denominal churches and new age religions with Christianity and then somehow pretend that didn't get considered in the Pew Research polls ignoring the fact that neither are really Christianity.
     
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    Really? Lol. Ever heard of Stalin?
     
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    Yep, atheists like Christians do like intimidating other people.
     
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    I don't think you read it, the gist is the number of committed Christians remains about the same, if not growing. Ask Hillary how they voted.
     
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    A recent article provides a different perspective:

    "Where Is Christianity Headed? The View from 2019" https://www.christianheadlines.com/...s-christianity-headed-the-view-from-2019.html

    "White U.S. congregations are withering. From 1991 to 2014, the number of white Protestants declined by a third, a trend that will continue as they age: Though 20 percent of Americans are 18 to 34 years of age, only 1 in 10 white Protestant congregations reflects that in their attendance. As a result, more than half of U.S. congregations now have fewer than 100 members. Hundreds will close this year.

    The “Trump Effect” has undermined the integrity of Christian witness in America in the eyes of the global church. Most non-American church leaders can’t believe the public support given to President Trump by some conservative U.S. church leaders and cannot understand the deafening silence of others.

    Trump’s own statements have scandalized the non-Western church, in referring to African nations as “s—hole countries” and in proclaiming an “America first” policy that sounds in many places like a theological heresy that puts the Bible second."
     
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    The white population of the US and globally is shrinking, of course white churches are shrinking. What difference does it make? Moody Church in Chicago has members from 70 nations.

    That is just a ridiculous political rant. I for one appreciate Trump's support of the pro-life cause and judges who believe in religious liberty.
     
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    Quote from your cite:
    What does "leaving Christianity" mean?

    If one looks at the underlying research (following the link in the Federalist article) it's hard to see something that indicates "strengthening".

    Also, the Federalist article struggles to find positive things to say about religion. Note that it switches to comparing the US to other countries. So, we're more religious than Europe? That's something WAY off the thesis. The article also compares today to early America without any discussion of the differences of that time - which is NOT something the Harvard study came within a country mile of examining.

    I would suggest this article was designed to be misleading - about as much so as most Federalist screed pieces.

    Frankly, I'm tired of articles like this presenting themselves as being in some way related to honest examination of the evidence - science, if you will.
     
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    Hypocrisy is bringing down the Bible-belt and the Vatican :ashamed:
     
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    Stalin was blatantly political in his actions, never considering religion in his quest.

    Nice try, but misses the mark you were shooting for.
     
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    Atheism wasn't the sole reason for Stalin's crimes, but it was a necessary one.
     
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    Only in your OPINION. Showing no display of a political science degree or any knowledge of politics, making your ASSUMPTIONS worth nothing.
     
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    All of which can be said of your opinions.
     
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    Um, I'm an atheist and I asked to be corrected and you had nothing. Read back over your statements on this thread and you'll see you have had no substantive input.
    That's another opinion.
     
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    But I have never claimed to be completely correct whereas you have, in spite of your obvious lack of knowledge.
     

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