NEW: The Dayton Shooter Was a Satanist, Leftist-Socialist, and Bernie/Warren Fan, Supported Antifa

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  1. Third Eyientist

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    Isn't true open borders a staple of Libertarianism?
     
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  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    A Satanist and Elizabeth Warren

    Walk into a bar.
     
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    We will never solve this problem as long as we fix the blame on people other than the shooters. This problem is not solvable in the grand scheme of things by government fiat
     
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    I think it's pretty clear to most Americans that the MSM is the propaganda arm of the "Progressive" movement that is restricted from their goals by our civil rights.

    FAKE NEWS: These Two Shootings Defy Traditional Political Stereotyping. The Media Is Trying to Squeeze Them In.

    The shooter in Ohio is an Elizabeth Warren fan, which means the media will focus far more on the El Paso shooter. But the El Paso shooter, who is very anti-immigration and believes the country is under invasion, also has a significant degree of concern about ecology and the environment. Neither of them fit within standard boxes of politics.

    Unfortunately, the media is so used to putting everything in R and D boxes and defaulting to blame Trump stories that reporters are trying to force the stories into standard boxes and are willing to discard or downplay inconvenient facts that prevent standard narrative building.

    This is a bad thing for them to do because it makes it way easier to amplify claims of bias against the media. Likewise, it gives both sides partisan talking points to avoid dealing with the larger issues involved.​

    Perhaps the largest issues is just what a lousy press we have.
     
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  5. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    And how are you going to fix the problem even if you DO blame the shooters? Most of the assassins make it clear the shooting is a suicide for them.
     
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  6. Reality

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    O? How?
     
  7. Reality

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    AS I said you'd have to have been quite proactive say about the time of birth to solve the problem it just isn't something government can do much about with out going full bore authoritarian and 200 dead a year is a far smaller price to pay than a few thousand imprisoned because some bureaucrat thought they might do something awful
     
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    Poor Lizzy.... blaming Trump for actions done by her own supporter
     
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    What don’t you know about the shooter in Dayton? Seems quite clear.
     
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    Shouldn’t you be listening to Elisabeth Warren?
    It was her supporter doing the shooting
     
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    Please don’t leave us hanging. Finish the joke.
    :)

    Seriously, I see what you did there. Good catch.
     
  13. Doug1943

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    Yes, you're right, it certainly is.

    Just like auctioning off all the National Parks is.

    Do they really, truly, way down deep, believe this stuff?
    I've met a number of American Libertarians -- in fact, I gave a talk about ten years ago to several Libertarian Party groups in California. Lovely people, a bit idealistic, but not crazy. (With one exception: in Sacramento there was a fellow in the audience who was against all traffic laws, stop lights etc. But he had the gleam of madness in his eyes.)

    Now I would bet that if you actually pinned down one of these folks, you would find they meant something like this: IF we had a strict Libertarian Republic -- no welfare of any sort, in other words, including no free education, no emergency free health care -- and IF we had a lengthy residence period before you could claim citizenship -- and IF we had strict and effective law-enforcement for proper crimes (initiatiation-of-force crimes, not selling the leaves of a plant or anything derived from plants) -- THEN we could have Open Borders, because we would not be bringing in anything but employable, law-abiding, self-supporting people.

    It reminds me of that hopeful saying, If we had some eggs, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some ham.
     
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    most politicians have no issues denouncing the kkk
     
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    what part of the post did you disagree with, are you sure it was my post you meant to reply too?

    I have to admit, so many killings hard to keep them straight sometimes
     
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  16. JakeStarkey

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    Yes, Trump's rhetoric is clearly racist and ethnocentric.
     
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    The KKK came out for Trump, of course.
     
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    Who has caused more trouble since Trump got elected, The KKK or Antifa?
     
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    Any white supremist paper is deplorable duh. You see your issue is you always try to blame the right, now one of your lefties, who supports Harris and Warren, retweeted Antifa tweets, critized Trump, and tweeted he was all in for socialism and wouldn't wait around for congress so who you going to blame. It's the fallacy of the left's you try to tag it to half of America then hide when it's one of there's. Neither side has own's either of these loons so stop making everything political, it's stupid.
     
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    So? Antifa comes out for the left, so does black lives matter. So do a lot of crazies. Both sides have their idiots. The idiots are not part of either side, they are just idiots.
     
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    And he denounced them, the only ones glorifying the KKK is the left the rest of us never discuss the idiots.
     
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    :) Thank you for being here. How are the left "the only ones glorifying the KK"? Do tell. :)
     
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    The killers of the right. We will always answer the questions correctly. How many have antifa killed?
     
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    I think you are overpushing the "supporter" meme.... saying you'd vote for her over the current occupant in the WH does not a "supporter" make.... I've said I'd vote for a shoe over Trump, but I'm not actually a shoe supporter..

    I'm sure she'll come out with something shortly on this extremely loose connection that will make sense....and that you will misinterpret...

    And FYI, it's Elizabeth.... no 's'
     

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