New Twist on Virgin Birth Genetics

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  1. Gelecski7238

    Gelecski7238 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Frank J. Tipler (Omega Point/Physics of Immortality) says that the Y chromosome doesn't contribute a lot of genes to offspring but rather tells the female XX genes what to turn on/off so as to make a normal XY male offspring. However, in animals capable of doing virgin birth (parthenogenesis if I recall correctly) the lack of Y being introduced is not an obstacle. Also, some males are born with the XX pattern. Theoretically then virgin birth could be induced in human females using unusual means of genetic intervention.

    Hence the question, was this how JC arrived by virgin birth?

    Blood from the Shroud of Turin and one other relevant cloth were tested and found to contain the XX pattern. Record of the test was difficult to find, as it was done in Italy and not published at large, and with no evaluation/discussion/conclusion.

    I got wind of this on TV or Youtube, not sure which, but it was very recent.
     
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    Back in 2010...… I made a real twit out of myself by wasting the time of an Orthodox Jewish Rabbi with the theory that I had on this back at that time.......



    http://tate4centralnova.yuku.com/topic/383/My-correspondence-with-Rabbi
    (post #6, page 1)


    These days..... I just shake my head in disbelief at how under informed I was back then!?

    How could I have wasted the Rabbi's time like that???!
     
  3. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    People will believe anything.
     
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    There has NEVER been any witness to any mammal that gives birth via Parthenogenesis.

    Humans are part of the mammal family.
     
  5. DennisTate

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    Pages forty to sixty of this book transformed my opinion of the Virgin Birth doctrine.


    http://www.amazon.ca/The-Thomas-Book-Gospel-Brother-ebook/dp/B0041D8YXW

    The Thomas Book: Near Death, a Quest and a New Gospel by the Twin Brother of Jesus [Kindle Edition]
    Bruce Fraser PhD MacDonald (Author)









    ........... Often up to page one hundred of this book can be read for free on the Google version......
     
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    Gorn Captain Banned

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    You've heard people exclaim "Jesus H. Christ!!!"....but do you know what the "H" stands for?



    "Haploid" :)
     
  7. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My guess would be that this is a riddle........... based on one of his names... Yeshua Ha Moshiach......… so in English ha is an abbreviation for humor....... so in a sense laughter may be Yeshua's middle name?
     
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    Attempting to apply science to fable is akin to believing Star Trek is real.

    Interesting to ponder, but little more than daydreaming.
     
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    If Helen Wambach Ph. D. and Dr. Chet Snow were tapping into something real during their studies in parapsychology….. within three to five centuries.. humanity will be doing even more than was conceived of in the Star Trek series.

    http://dwij.org/forum/future_link/future7.htm
     
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    What do you call people who never check science facts against what is stated in any book?
    Idiots?
     
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    Genetic studies have been very important to bible studies.

    Recent genetic tests of the Jewish priests have concluded that those men all have one ancient common father who lived around 1362BC, which would suggest that Aaron is that man.
    These were supposed to be the priests before God forever,... forever from that time on.

    It also is a proof off the legitimacy of the present Jews living in Israel, genetic evidence that they are the same peoples who were chased out in 70AD.

    Plus, this dates the book of Exodus which tells us these priests had aaron as the father, and certifies the Old testament as written in 1362BC.
     
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