New Variant 'IHU' Identified In France, May Have 46 Mutations

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Testing tourists/travelers is a good idea, and probably the reason why they are already doing it.
     
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    Which viruses have not?

    I know there have been some completely kept at bay with vaccines, but any that evolved to become worse amongst the coronavirus and influenza viruses?

    The article above is from February 2021, and since then we have had many mutations. Delta came before that time, but Omicron after. Omicron seems to be the one going in the direction of more transmissible but less lethal.
     
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    It started in China. China is the problem.
     
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    When are we going to stop the hysteria about new strains? We will have them forever. Get on with life.
     
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    "New strains"...? Sure, we'll always have diseases and new strains... BUT -- how often do we have pandemic virus outbreaks that cause the planet-wide upheaval, disruption, and economic dislocation of the magnitude that COVID (and its 'children') have inflicted on us...?!

    Look at what the situation is in our hospitals in the United States! And, today, the Red Cross has declared the first national blood crisis in the United States: https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...ed-cross-declares-first-national-blood-crisis

    Now, is it too great a 'stretch' to imagine what could easily happen when/if some new mutation rolls out that has the transmissibility of Omicron -- BUT -- with greater lethality?!

    It ain't "hysteria" to consider these possibilities seriously, fmw... although I do have friends, and, one deceased extended-family member who thought the whole thing was just a lot of over-hyped bullshit. Thankfully, that man only had to suffer on a ventilator in a hospital for about two weeks before death released him from any further conjecture about whether this virus was a matter of "hysteria" or not....
     
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    This is the only one that has been met with hysteria. Cut through the blubber and you have a bug that kills less than 1% of those infected. Vaccinate, good idea. But destroying wealth and personal liberty is just hysteria.

    Most of the hospitalizations are due to the hysteria and unwarranted. The problem patients were those that remained in the hospitals. The disease is troublesome for people like me who are old and co-morbid but having the entire population acting like it does is hysteria, not common sense. The hospitals only get crownded when there is some new twist to the virus that causes hysteria. Even though cases have climbed steadily, the hospitals are doing just fine most of the time.

    It could happen. We have no control over viral mutation so there is no point in pondering it. We should be content with dealing what is here now.

    The numbers say it is hysteria. From the beginning government should have explained that this bug could be dangerous for the elderly and those with co morbidities and deal with that group. Almost all the deaths have come from that group. Everyone else could and should have gone on with life. But instead everyone else engaged in HYSTERIA.
     
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    I never know what numbers to believe. But the aggregate of all sources I've seen appear to indicate that the highest vaccinated countries have the highest transmission rates.
     
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    Where can I find this data?
     
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    I told you; you can't. Data can't be trusted because our government failed to make it a serious crime for a government official to knowingly report false numbers. Yah know, like Sotomayor did this week. Lessons learned: next pandemic, make laws to hold this behavior accountable.

    I just try to come up with a rough average from all sources. I don't see how anyone trusts data after the constant lies we have seen for 2 years.
     
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    You have a point, both sides of the camp have made some very dubious claims (pro vs anti vax camp) and it comes down to the individual who tries to keep apprised of the various claims to decide what to believe in or not. Data from other countries seems more forthcoming: UK/Israel, etc.

    Has anyone been following the Berenson vs Malone spat recently, btw?
     
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    until such time as the world is told the truth about the engineered virus, and how it shall continue to evolve, folks will just grow fatigued of jabs, masks etc

    But, we'll never be told because political hacks will lose their jobs so instead, we get propaganda campaigns waged between the lemmings who believe everything said by govt and those who question it
     
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    You've written "engineered" in the same post as "evolved"! What makes you think that the "original" variant could not have "evolved" from a natural variant just like other viral pandemics started from for thousands of years?
     
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    wet market campaign fell flat

    since then, we've seen nothing except dribs and drabs about the origination. I wonder why.............

    feel free to fall in line and think that this was not engineered
     
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    Reliable data are very spotty.
     
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    Vaccines have nothing to do with transmission. The transmission rate should be the same for everyone depending on population density. The infection rate, on the other hand, should be reduced ty vaccines. So far there is some question that they are effective at doing that. One thing is clear and that is that the vaccines have some therapeutic benefit resulting in lower hospitalization rates.
     
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    As I'm sure you have heard, the odds that the epicenter of a natural origin occurring in the same location of the headquarters of "study" of such virus is very low. Knowing just this would be enough for any real scientist to heavily investigate this possibility so as to rule it out. But that's not what they did. They did the opposite, and got behind the podium, from the very beginning, and said there was no possibility of a lab leak. And then they used big tech to censor ANYONE (scientist, celebrity, politician, average joe) who suggested the possibility.

    The fact of the coincidental location of origin is not enough to 100% say it came from the lab. But combine that with how Fauci and friends treated the possibility seals the deal imo. It came from the lab.
     
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