New Video From A&E for 9/11 truth

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  1. ar10

    ar10 New Member

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    New Video From A&E for 9/11 truth. Pretty good play, I suggest we all watch this and have a reasonable discussion of the information contained.

    This professional group of 1500 members, have 25,000 years of combined work related experience.

    Thank you for watching.

    Part one of ten (entire low res version in link below

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibXozvqZtzE"]Pt.1of10 - 911 Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out !!Full-length!! Pre-Release.mp4 - YouTube[/ame]

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw-jzCfa4eQ&feature=youtu.be
     
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    _Lisa_ New Member

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    Kudos to A & E for showing the program.
     
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    candycorn New Member Past Donor

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    And none of them seem to be able to find a way to convince anybody so they are making videos...still...after 10 years. Videos that few will watch and even fewer will care about.

    The group is pathetic.
     
  4. BullsLawDan

    BullsLawDan New Member

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    And numerous people who signed up just for (*)(*)(*)(*)s and giggles.

    They can't even check whether the people who join their group are who they say they are, and they expect that anyone's going to believe their "evidence"?
     
  5. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    You'll note that ridicule is all the "official" supports can offer. Commenting on anything specifically is against policy, and truth is the very last thing on their agenda. Better to just educate yourself and spread the word to friends and family than waste serious effort against battle hardened shills, with years of practice doing the same thing over and over.
    Kudos to you for having an open mind and checking it out for yourself.
     
  6. _Lisa_

    _Lisa_ New Member

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    I know the drill, friend. ;)
     
  7. Hannibal

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    If you think they are referring to the "Art & Entertainment" network, they are not.
     
  8. Hannibal

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    At about the two minute mark, Mr. Gage discusses his petition, but he does not state when or to whom he plans to submit it. Do you know where this information might be found?
     
  9. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    AWESOME
    VIDEOS!


    Thanks!

    What a knock down blow!



     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Good point!

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExmSMU9ls-w"]WTC Finite Element Analysis - YouTube[/ame]
     
  11. BullsLawDan

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    Excellent question. Mr. Gage makes a tidy sum traveling around and waving his petition, but there's no indication he expects to do anything with it.

    One would think that if he was really interested in having a "new, independent investigation" done, he would have submitted his petition to someone who could accomplish that by now. One would also think that, if he simply wanted to sustain his income stream, he would not be truly interested in a new investigation which would of course confirm the results of the others that have already been done, and would instead merely travel from place to place waving his petition around.
     
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    I did. So who is THIS A&E then?
     
  13. Hannibal

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    'Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth'
     
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    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    The emphasis being on "truth".
     
  15. Hannibal

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    Exactly. "Truth".

    Not truth. "Truth".
     
  16. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    well the gubafia makes a tidy sum killing muslims and stealing their oil. What makes you think any investigation is possible before all the eveidence is well destroyed.
     
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    Thank you.


    I really should have known better than to think a jewish owned network would run the series.
     
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    T R U T H!!!!!!!!!!
     
  19. BullsLawDan

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    LOL... Another refugee from Stormfront?
     
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    Trolling and irrelevancies, instead of responding to the post.

    Typical. All the 9/11 Deniers are capable of at this point.

    Despite the fact that I've offered $100 to any 9/11 Denier that can go 5 posts in a row asking every question answered of them, here we are with them unable to even go one.
     
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    No problem, bigots often operate from a position of ignorance.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Here we go......blame the jews
     
  23. ar10

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    Lets say a guy named Smith, John Smith robs a bank, so we blame the whole Smith family going back 30 generations, for the theft, or blame John Smith?

    The Jews cannot be blamed for the actions of their Military Industrial Complex, any more than I can be blamed for the actions of the USA Military Industrial Complex.

    The people that really run everything seem to be from no one nation. Check the roster of fat cat meetings all over the planet.
     
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    Well, thank you. :mrgreen: I'll accept your kudos since I, too, checked it out for myself with an open mind.

    I guess I would be considered a "denier", although I find it odd that people who deny the validity of the 9/11 Commission Report are called "truthers" and the people who think the 9/11 Commission is essentially true are called "deniers".

    Be that as it may, I did watch all 10 parts and were struck by several items.

    They seemed to spend an inordinate amount of time reciting the alphabet soup of their qualifications -- BA in this, MA in that, Phd in the other -- okay, I get it. Establishing credibility. They seemed to raise some interesting questions about WTC7.

    HOWEVER, when an engineer with those types of qualifications looks into a camera and says that you can tell the fire was oxygen starved because of the black smoke, that's a bit of a concern. Smoke color is not a good indication of the oxygen level of a fire. Plastics (like computer monitors or office furniture) would burn with black smoke regardless of how much oxygen was present. If I, a non-engineer, (although I do have a BS in Business Administration with options in Accounting and Management Information Systems AND have experience operating a wood-fired boiler) know this to be false, I wonder how many other of their "findings" would be considered doubtful by those more knowledgeable.

    ALSO, they claim to know definitely that all three buildings were brought down by controlled demolition but do not give any sort of plausible explanation as to how that could have been set up in all 3 without anyone noticing.

    And if the government was going to go to all the trouble to do that, why involve planes at all? Why not just say that terrorists infiltrated the maintenance crew and wired the buildings with explosives? Seems just as plausible and less complicated than some of the other "theories"

    And finally, the counselors and psychologists at the end spent a lot of time explaining to us "deniers" why we were having a hard time accepting the notion that our government would do something like this. Fair enough. But NOT ONE of them explained the sort of control issues that would be involved in keeping hundreds if not thousands of people who would have had to been involved in a conspiracy of this magnitude from talking. The one who addressed the issue of "someone would have said something" just dismissed it with "That's an opinion, not science" or some such nonsense. These are people who are supposed to be experts in human behavior, yet she was unable to offer an explanation as to why, in that situation, no one would talk in our current world of blogs, Wiki leaks, sources "commenting under condition of anonymity" and the like.

    So, although I am a bit skeptical about certain aspects of the "official" story, it is still more plausible than any of the other theories.
     
  25. ar10

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    The majority of the smoke told responders, and scientists, fires were controllable. Had they not been controllable, rescuers would not have gone in to rescue. Radio from the 89th floor said the fires were small and they could knock it out with a couple of hoses, just before the tower fell.

    Also, why involve planes? To gain control of the civilian airline fleet. No air terror, no TSA waiting in the wings to control us.

    I & 2 were frosting on the cake. The frosting came first, then the cake (building 7) came down later. I believe flight 93 was going to hit building 7. When that plane safely landed (????????????????) , the brass of the operation, scrambled into action, had a missile hit Shanksville to be a smokescreen for a plane crash, and then they waited for small fires to build, to blame for building 7 that afternoon. Building 7 was the main target. Enron, and a host of other government scandals were about to be exposed, that could not be, so they set this plan in motion.
     

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