New York mayor's job is to 'defend Israel ' !

What an awful thing to say about an "ally". Especially one that props you up militarily, joins in your UN vetoes, and allows your agents to operate freely within all facets of US government as catering to the whims of the Jewish lobbies in Congress, which happen to be the most powerful of all.

Who do you think you're foolin'?

 

Ya because AIPAC is just as powerful as Arab oil money. And FYI the most powerful lobby in the U.S. is the AARP.

 

If the USA realises that Zionism is detested by its neighbouring States so much that they refuse to assist in any project with it then the US must face up to its catastrophic errors in giving Zionism blanket diplomatic and military protection- let alone condoning its ill-informed establishment in the first place- and should NOT enter into covert agreements with its agents in Washington. The entire world will have witnessed de Blasio's behaviour by now. Considering that the world voted 138-9 in favour of Palestinian Statehood at the UN in 2012 de Blasio's covert bonding will have been received warmly by Israel, Canada, the Czech Republic and a few obscure Pacific islands. Oh, and all of the US too. Not. The other 138 will be saying ' we told you so ' and all the abstainers will be listening.

 

No, it wasn't. That's a common belief- perpetrated by Zionists- but it isn't true. The UN suggested the creation of two States in 1947 by way of non-binding Resolution 181. The Zionists declared Statehood unilaterally in 1948 upon territories which were NOT designated to them by the UN. Between 1947 and 1948 they had already razed many Palestinian villages and killed or expelled the inhabitants. Historic fact, regardless of neoZionist wheedling and whining.

 

My favourite Muslim musician? Salif Keita: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1Se-S1BiEA
Oh, and I have several examples of beautiful Islamic art which my father collected whist stationed in the Middle East during WW2 as a miltary attache to the Polish Government in Exile.

 

Classic American 'logic'; 'if it's big it's better'.

 

That is a very dumb statement of intention.

Not too many years ago the same was said about African (black) music; which ethnicity dominates the western charts? Please exclude x-factor manufactured "artists"

Compare all the previous songs in this thread with say, Shakira "whenever, wherever" and you will find that they are all similar.

 

The orgenized Arab attacks started in Nov 30 1947, a day after 181 was voted on. that is an historical fact regardless of Muslim whining..

OFC Israeli declaration was unilaterally, you expected Israel to declare Arab indipendance ??? Arabs refused 2 states in any borders and that's noted in 181.

 

I simply repeat;
No, it wasn't. That's a common belief- perpetrated by Zionists- but it isn't true. The UN suggested the creation of two States in 1947 by way of non-binding Resolution 181. The Zionists declared Statehood unilaterally in 1948 upon territories which were NOT designated to them by the UN. Between 1947 and 1948 they had already razed many Palestinian villages and killed or expelled the inhabitants. Historic fact, regardless of neoZionist wheedling and whining.

Your wheedling and whining is not based upon fact at all. It's myth.

 

Looks to me like lynch justice, arresting the man that's standing rather then investigate the event, 48 borders are not in dispute, Israel as a state is not in dispute, 67 lines and the Palestinian state are.

 

I saw the theatre of Dionysus. Pitiful. The whole thing is about the size of half a school auditorium, ,and took the greeks lifetimes to complete. I am supposed to be impressed?

My house is bigger then the library at Celsus, my phone holds more books. I am supposed to think "oh how magnificent they were back then!"? BS. They sucked. The Romans have some amazing things in Rome, but the rest is just laughable.

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Black musicians in America are part of Western culture. Dont try to claim them for the Africans. They are fully American, been here for hundreds of years. I never said Arab people were useless, just Arab culture. It retards their progress.

 

You could replace AIPAC with Bilderberg and you have the same situation as happened in Swiss a couple of years ago. Hundreds of people that demonstrated a top private (not secret, else we wouldn't know about it) Bilderberg meeting.
The only thing that does is the organisation of people that don't like what they read and hear. These huge or powerful organisations will disappear one day without doing anything, because they will grow and grow, until they have become too big, because the same has happened to banks and is happening to Facebook, and also happened to the former empires.
So why do you want to organize NYC citizens? (because that is the result of calling for action and resistance against these meetings and organisations, and not their end, history proofs)

 

Fact? It never was a 'fact' but it certainly is not a 'fact' anymore?

Yes I do. Do you deny that Israel's interests are different than American interests?

 

Yeah, it just would have taken them many centuries (if not more). You didn't know about the 'list' before this discussion, so I don't care what your 'sure' of.

I was referring to Arab music. I doubt you even know they play pop here.

No. As to the rest of comment, I'm not going to even bother.

Too simplistic to take seriously.

I'm aware the general America values quantity over quality.

 

The UNSC never passed a resolution because the Arabs rejected the UNGA resolution out of hand, the Jews through the Jewish Agency which became the provisional Israeli government fully accepted the partition plan; whereas, the Arab Higher Commission for Palestine and the Arab League fully rejected partition and begun a war against the Jews even before the British Mandate expired and before Israel declared independence through the Army of the Holy war led by the nephew of the Nazi Mufti and the Arab Liberation Army respectively.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_the_Holy_War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Liberation_Army

This was coupled with a detailed plan formed and legislated by the Arab League to ethnically cleanse and lock their own Jewish citizens into concentration camps while seizing all of their assets:


JEWS DISPLACED FROM ARAB COUNTRIES: A STORY OF COLLUSION

http://www.justiceforjews.com/chrono_web.pdf


Text of the Law Drafted by the Political Committee of the Arab League
Summary

In 1947, the Political Committee of the Arab League (League of Arab States) drafted a law which was to govern the legal status of Jewish residents in all Arab League countries. This law had already been approved by Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Iraq, provided that, “beginning with a specified date, all Jews – with the exception of citizens of non-Arab countries – were to be considered members of the Jewish ‘minority state of Palestine,’ and that their bank account be frozen and used to finance resistance to ‘Zionist ambitions in Palestine.’ Jews believed to be active Zionists would be interned as political prisoners and their assets confiscated. Only Jews who accept active service in Arab armies or place themselves at the disposal of these armies would be considered ‘Arabs.’” 1

Excerpts of Direct Quotes of the Law drafted by the Political Committee of the Arab League

• “All Jewish citizens…will be considered as members of the Jewish minority of the State of Palestine and will have to register [“within 7 days”] with the authorities of the region wherein they reside, giving their names, the exact number of members in their families, their addresses, the names of their banks and the amounts of their deposits in these banks…”2

• “Bank accounts of Jews will be frozen. These funds will be utilized in part or in full to finance the movement of resistance to Zionist ambitions in Palestine.”3

• “Only Jews who are subjects of foreign countries will be considered ‘neutrals.’ These will be compelled either to return to their countries, with a minimum of delay, or be considered Arabs and obliged to accept active service in the Arab army.”4

• “Every Jew whose activities reveal that he is an active Zionist will be considered as a political prisoner and will be interned in places specifically designated for that purpose by police authorities or by the Government. His financial resources, instead of being frozen, will be confiscated.”5

• “Any Jew who will be able to prove that his activities are anti-Zionist will be free to act as he likes, provided that he declares his readiness to join the Arab armies.”6

• “The foregoing…does not mean that those Jews will not be submitted to paragraphs 1 and 2 of this law.”7

1 Memorandum Submitted to the U.N. Economic and Social Council by the World Jewish Congress. (Jan. 19, 1948 ) Section I. (2) a. June 2, 1948. [ZIIC - This reference is in the document prepared by JJAC and is probably incorrect]

2 Text of the Law drafted by the Political Committee of the Arab League. Paragraph 1.

3 ibid. Paragraph 2.

4 ibid. Paragraph 3.

5 ibid. Paragraph 5.

6 ibid. Paragraph 6.

7 ibid. Paragraph 7. (Paragraph 1 & 2 indicate all Jews must register and disclose personal and banking information and

that bank accounts will be frozen and utilized for anti-Zionist resistance.)

It was the Arabs not the Jews who started the conflict and the civil war.

Beginning with the Battle of Tel Hai when Arabs attacked a Jewish settlement in which 8 Jews were killed, this was followed by the Nebi Musa Riots in 1921 in which the Arabs killed 5 Jews, then the Jaffa Riots, also in 1921 where the Arabs killed 45 Jews, and then we had the Palestine Riots in 1929 in which the Arabs killed 133 Jews, this was followed by the Safed Massacre in 1929 in which 20 Jews were killed, this all culminated with the anti-Semitic Jihadist organization known as the Black Hand which routinely targeted Jewish settlers culminating in the Arab revolt between 1936 and 1939 in which the Arabs indiscriminately targeted Jews.

The Deir Yassin massacre on April 9, 1948 which resulted in 107 dead villagers was followed by the Hassah Medical Convoy Massacre on April 13th 1948 resulting in 79 dead Jews, and itself was followed by the Kfar Etzion Massacre on May 13, 1948 resulting in the deaths of 129 Jews, Kfar Etzion was in turn followed by the al-Dawayima massacre where appx.100 Arabs were killed on October 28, 1948, and point of fact Deir Yassin itself was preceded by the Ben Yehuda Street Bombing of February 22, 1948 in which 58 Jewish civilians were killed.

 

You mean the achievements of the Greeks, Romans, Byzantines, Sassanids, and Indians whose territory was conquered, people enslaved, temples burned, and works translated into Arabic while the original works themselves were burned? I would not brag about the cultural genocide known as Arabization.

 

The pre-1967 borders are a good start- but by no means the end of the matter. For all practical purposes the Palestinians and the Israelis will adopt the pre-1967 borders- as recognised by the world community- but the legal battle will continue.

 

Yeah, that's exactly what I meant.

 

Sorry mate but 'bigger' doesn't equate to better-unless you subscribe to the notion that because Fox 'news' gets the highest ratings it therefore must be the best.
Try building a Greek temple with nothing more elaborate than a hammer and chisel, string and a plumb line. We'll see whose results are the most impressive then, shall we?
You have 'books' in your telephone? And I'm supposed to be impressed by that?

Oh, and where do you think the Blues and Jazz had its roots? That's right, in African field songs which they sang as they worked.

 

African Americans, otherwise I want the name of this great African Jazz artist.

So? What else do you need? Why didnt they have the brains to try to work on that, instead of sitting around all day lugging rocks? That is my problem with these people. Their towns are small and crappy, as are their monuments, and they took centuries to build. Big waste.

 

Yeah, if they'd bin smart theyda had trailer parks.

 

Drat, and double drat. There was I thinking The Beatles, artistically, were the greatest thing the rock music world had ever seen.

 

With running water and electricity.

 

Correct, same as the non binding UNSC Resolution 242. A suggestion and recommendation which pretty much states that anybody that wishes to move forward should take the bul by the horns and adhere to the terms put forth within. The acceptance of Israel upon their declaration of Independence is testament to their adhering to the wishes of the world. Similarly, the Palestinian state was also made a non member observer state by a non binding recommendation and not by a chapter seven UNSC Resolution.

As we can see now, it is all quite legal.

 

Sure. Waterboarding and ol' Sparky.