New York Times Magazine Declares War on America and History

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  1. MissingMayor

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    It could be more or less. In either case no one should worry about pulling them down, right?
     
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    ... before you know it they'll tell you the black slaves built the entire America as it is today and it should be handed to them... you'll all be living in Baltimore not too long after that happens
     
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    Here's more:

     
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    I don't have a dog in the fight, there are none where I live but it should be up to the people where they are located.
     
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    None of that negates what we did here in this country, or the personal pain or social degeneration it caused. Blaming others is no help. We have to face what we did ourselves, & make sure nothing like that behavior, or lack of human compassion ever happens here again.
     
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    None of those people are alive.

    It actually is, with abortion. In both cases a class of humans is deemed less than human and therefore expendable, for the good of society of course.
     
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    Funny to see you continually assume you know the race of people you have never met, on the internet.
     
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    So you really believe at Michigan existed as a colony or a state in1619?? You really believe that?
     
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    Those people were obducted by space aliens and are being held in aminated suspension on an illegal alien vessel to the E5Ad.223/Wrb-5hoobbieD0 star system home to the alien's planet.
     
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    Neither blaming others or changing the subject will erase the impact slavery had & STILL HAS on us here in the U.S. The avoidance you are demonstrating here is one that whites have demonstrated continuously since 1619. The attitudes developed during slavery toward blacks are still with us today. Just check the populations imprisoned across America. And, check the individuals sitting on death row inside those prisons. What is their race? And, check the pay rates for workers across the nation. How does pay for white workers compare with black? And check the quality ratings for the schools for white vs black children in America. Look deeply into almost any aspect of life in the U.S. & you'll encounter the after effects of slavery, deeply rooted, & still very active in everything we do, whether consciously or not. That's why it must be re-evaluated & re-examined in depth. For it is us today as much as it was us during the Civil War. We must become aware of it within ourselves if we're ever to have any hope of making it better for all.
     
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    Yes, because rehashing ancient history over and over, and wallowing in victimhood, has certainly shown itself to be the best way of making it better for all.
     
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    You are presenting a non-sequitur argument. The article is talking about white Europeans bringing slavery to the America's and also nonsense that America was founded in 1619. Both are ludicrous as there was slavery here well before white Europeans ever discovered this continent and that America was founded in 1619. The article also makes a claim that the civil war was a war fought in defense of slavery.... That in itself is historic lunacy.
     
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    You are wrong on every count but there is no use discussing it because.....well, you're wrong on every count and obviously don't understand the point of the article. You want to make it into something it's not.
    The South DID fight the civil war to defend their rights to have slaves.
     
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    Everything you posted is absolute bullshit and you know it. None of those things has anything to do with slavery, race, etc, and has everything to do with present day culture in the black communities.
     
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    Wrong because you say I'm wrong? Hah... good to know.

    And you realize that the southern states seceded well before slavery was even a major topic. They seceded shortly after Lincoln was elected and even sworn into office. Matter of fact, Lincoln wasn't even on the ballet in the Southern states as he represented the Republican party who was the party for stopping the advancement of slave states. Slavery was merely a bi-note in a complicated issue but it surely wasn't the motivation for the civil war. The South, after Lincolns election, refused to notice the Union as a federal governing body of the southern states.
     
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    No, you're wrong because you have no interest in facts and only YOUR opinion.
     
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    You've not listed one fact or countered any of my statement. You've merely pulled the liberal debate tactic of "No, you're wrong." with absolutely no counter argument or detail rebutting my facts.

    I guess we are at an impasse since you have no desire to debate.
     
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    All of the ones that have been taken down pretty much have been done by the local population. I can't think of a case when that hasn't been the case.
     
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    The Southern states attempted to secede and thus started the Civil War to protect slavery.

    Like it or not, the States that eventually formed the USA were founded well before they declared independence.
     
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    New York Times Magazine Declares War on America and History.

    Yawn.
     
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    Where did the other 95% go and where are you getting that information from?
     
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    New Amsterdam was founded in 1609.
     
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    The most comprehensive analysis of shipping records over the course of the slave trade is the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database, edited by professors David Eltis and David Richardson. (While the editors are careful to say that all of their figures are estimates, I believe that they are the best estimates that we have, the proverbial “gold standard” in the field of the study of the slave trade.)

    Between 1525 and 1866, in the entire history of the slave trade to the New World, according to the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database, 12.5 million Africans were shipped to the New World.

    10.7 million survived the dreaded Middle Passage, disembarking in North America, the Caribbean and South America.

    And how many of these 10.7 million Africans were shipped directly to North America? Only about 388,000. That’s right: a tiny percentage.

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    I agree with a portion of your statement. The Southern states were part of the formed USA prior to their succession, but their succession wasn't principled on the protection of slavery. There was turmoil between the North and South that was primarily economic. The election of Abraham Lincoln was the defining moment for the South.

    And not saying that slavery wasn't a factor as it was, but primarily as an economic tool versus humanitarian.
     
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