New York Times Supported 10 of 12 U.S. Coups In Latin America

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  1. Horhey

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    The Record of the Paper (not counting the US terrorist wars):

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    https://www.truthdig.com/articles/y...support-of-u-s-backed-coups-in-latin-america/

    The Times is institutionally supportive of U.S. imperial interests. One Editorial proclaimed in 2010:
    Times Columnist, Thomas Friedman, similarly declares in the final chapter of his book, "The.Lexus and the olive tree", that the success of globalization depends on Washington's willingness to use its muscle to impose its "Free Trade" system against any "who would threaten the system of globalization."
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    The Times also supported Reagan's terrorist wars in Central America. Even going so far as direct complicity in the CIA's dirty work there. I wrote the following in Wikipedia's Honduran Battalion 3-16 page:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battalion_3-16_(Honduras)

    A former prisoner of the 3-16, Ines Murillo, claimed that during her captivity she had been tortured in the presence of the CIA adviser, Mr. Mike, and that he had submitted questions for her. In his June 1988 testimony, Richard Stolz, then the CIA deputy director for operations, confirmed that a CIA official had visited the prison where Murillo was being held.[9]

    Ines Murillo also accused New York Times reporter, James LeMoyne, of doing some dirty work of his own. In a letter to the Times, Murillo noted that LeMoyne's reporting included a series of distortions and falsehoods, which "have caused great damage to me and my family" and "could be used to justify the kidnapping, disappearance and assassination of hundreds of people."'[10]

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    A wall displaying victims of forced disappearance in the office of COFADEH.

    Years later, one senior State Department official conceded the U.S. role in the disappearances.
     
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    They also had a serious Nazi-crush on Hitler for quite a while.

    The NYT is a sleazy yellow conservative rag and always has been.
     
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    Well, that does it. I'm never reading the NYTimes again. Thank you for opening my eyes. ;)
     
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    No you just have to know how to read it.
     
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    Which is my big beef with those who want to divide media sources by partisan loyalty. Media is a business. But the problem is not the media, it's the readers.
     
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    I'm surprised it wasn't a full 12 outta 12, actually.

    Political realities and popular narratives are two entirely different things. If not for journalism, the ONLY source of both are one's government and the perpetrators of those realities.

    The Cold War was a particularly nasty piece of work. Like an iceberg 9/10ths of the truly dastardly deeds done were unknown by almost everyone at the time. Hell we are still learning about some of the criminal crap that went on, decades later. And commies dicking around in Central and South America was just the thing for the US to get seriously nasty about. And they did, very seriously. History has revealed what an indelible stain The School of the Americas was on American Values and Honor, at the time.


    Don't blame the NYT for supporting American hemispheric intervention since its been American foreign policy since 1823 or so.
     
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    Had nothing to do with the Cold War. Another media induced illusion. Had everything to do with defeating popular movements fighting foar independence from the Empire of the North.

    And your contention that the New York Times should support imperialism simply because it is longstanding US policy means that you don't even have a basic understanding of what journalism or even democracy is all about. That's a very authoritarian view.
     
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    I think you misread.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well sonny, I lived thru the damn thing and I can state categorically you're talking outta yer hat.
     
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    I have researched these issues for nearly 20 years. I can cite case after case from both the declassified record and the scholarly literature.
     
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    IOW, Maduro should scoot with the loot ASAP.
     
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    Brilliant. Summarized in less than 3 minutes.

     
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    Good for you. Then you know what I am talking about because if you researched the history that extensively, there is no way the bigger conflict does not provide context and a more comprehensive perspective of the time period.
     
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    Grenada was in response to a communist coup of a moderate government.

    The New York Times was against a Reagan-led effort to overthrow communist revolutionaries who had just staged a coup a week earlier. Shocking.
     
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    Don’t forget they hype the invasion of Iraq up too.
     
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    Indeed. Take Guatemalan President Arbenz, who was overthrown by the CIA in 1954. A capitalist system. Arbenz modeled his programs on FDR's New Deal. Didn't matter. The US would have none of it. Arbenz was branded a communist and he was overthrown, justified on Cold War grounds.

    In private, however, the State Department warned that:
    That is the "threat of a good example" or what's called the "domino theory."

    Take another case. Nicaragua. Some of my edits on Wikipedia's Contra page:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contras
    Examples abound but no need to continue.
     
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    I think we violently agree that the geo=political game is a nasty one motivated by specific self interests on all sides. The overarching Western paranoia over the evil soviets and their commie satellites justified all kinds of nefarious deeds. Perhaps you recall McCarthy and his gang. His hit man turned out to be one of Trumps mentors, ironically.
     
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    That guy has zero credability.
    He is the major falsifier of truth who live in our times.
    When the comunist Kambodian regime was buzy commining the worst genocide of our time, he supported them.
    When evidence of their attrocities came to the west, he tried to silence and discredit the survivors.
     
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    Ignore list.
     
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    Do you have any criticism for the like of Allende in Chile? He took the dairy farm of a neighbor who came to Chile in 1939 as a penniless German Jew. No compensation. My neighbor was turned into a refugee for the second time in little more than three decades.

    (No, I'm not saying Pinochet was a nice guy.)
     
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    Of course, the Cold War was involved in many countries. Allende in Chile was a Marxist.
     
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    He was no friend of the USSR. He embraced democracy also. Big difference between a Marxist and a Marxist-Leninist. Marxists believe in workers control. Leninists want State Capitalism.
     
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    Good post - Iraq and Syria should also be on that list.

    The NY-Times and MSM in general is a propaganda arm of the state. Now more so than ever.
     

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