New Zealand mosques: Several dead after shootings in Christchurch

Thanks for your pointless contribution.

 

And thank you for so clearly illustrating my point!

 

Fundamentalist Muslims have always hated us (it's our culture they hate) from way back when; all that America - and your poodle - has done, by ****ing up big-time in the region, is to stir up the hornets' nest of simmering Islamic hostility, and we're beginning to see the first of the hornets now.

 

Read the manifesto. He hates the left, he hates conservatives, he hates pretty much everyone outside of his little bubble.

He is not on the left. Not by any reasonable definition.

Again, read the manifesto. In full.

 

It could loosely be argued that 'Evil thrives when good men do nothing.' So how exactly does that square when we are doing nothing, and him who's doing something? It's a thin line!

 

If you read the manifesto, he absolutely wants us to "do something". He does not expect the 49 deaths to be significant, he expects OUR actions in response to precipitate race war.

He wants to end Muslim presence in Western nations, 49 wont do anything.

Again, READ THE DAMN MANIFESTO

 

So your solution is to submit to radical Islam and Sharia law without a fight then, is it?

 

Looks much as though terrorist turd cribbed a bunch of his bullshit from this very thread. Maybe he's a time traveller.

 

So ... he supports leftist causes because he’s a right-winger.

 

He has not supported any "leftist" causes: he likes China imprisoning one and a half Muslims; He wants the government to threaten the 2nd amendment so that whites will rise up and drive leftists and non-whites out; He approves of what Trump says about "invaders"

 

For heavens sake wake up. This is not a Left vs Right Issue. Throughout recent history extremists at both ends of the political spectrum have amply demonstrated their willingness to embrace violence in pursuit of 'the cause' when it suits their ends. And they always attempt to justify it by dividing people into two groups - those worthy of protection and 'the 'enemy' - those who are not. Which usually includes any member of their own nation/race/religion/political belief etc who happen to oppose the measures the 'saviors' of the group in question wish to implement. (And who are then usually labelled as 'traitors' in order to justify eliminating them alongside the whichever 'enemy' they happen to be fixated upon.

So to repeat there is no 'left' or 'right' when it come to this type of offense. There are only cold blooded murdering fanatics and the rest of us.

 

Why would I want to read the ramblings of a madmen? Why would we even want to emphasize right-wing extremism on the part of the perpetrator, which only ''legitimizes'' his actions?

All throughout the coverage of this terrible event, only the right-wing motives of the killer have been mentioned.

But did it EVER occur to anyone that this killer is a complete NUTCASE?? Seriously mentally ill, though I haven't heard that mentioned once, not even by the NZ Prime Minister.

Right wing extremist views (like hate for all Muslims) and fascism in general are NOT legitimate political views but the ideas of seriously disturbed people.

Hitler was, obviously, seriously mentally ill. I mean, who comes up with the idea to kill all Jews? A nutcase, that's who!
Yet Hitler is rarely mentioned as being mentally disturbed. Instead, history is still trying to figure out his Third Reich ideology, like seeking justification for his actions.

Ted Bundy, the serial killer, was obviously mentally ill and he has been identified as such.
But I guess that's because he killed individuals, not scores of people at once. But if Ted Bundy would shoot up a mosque today, all of a sudden he would be considered a right wing extremist.

But killing one individual or killing scores of people are the same thing; they are the actions of disturbed individuals, regardless of how these individuals justify their actions.
Their ''motives'' are merely an expression of the madness in their minds.

The man who killed so many innocent Muslims in NZ was, in technical terms, a loon and he should, first and foremost, be recognized as such. It's only proper, as a any doctor would tell you.

The NZ killer roaming the streets, armed to the teeth, was a failure of the NZ police to identify him and the failure of a local NZ community to identify and report this nutcase to any other relevant authority.

What happened in NZ is NOT about right-wing extremism because right wing extremism does NOT exist, except in the mind of mentally ill individuals.
The rest is propaganda by mainstream media and people on this forum to legitimize right wing views as political motives.

Let a psychiatrist make a career out of the manifesto.
For the rest of us it should be considered the writings of nutcase who will now be under psychiatric care for the rest of his life.

As he should have been a long time ago...

 

Nonsense. It was a senseless act of slaughter by a loser.

 

What I found surprising is that an "expert" on these type of events stated that in 60% of cases other people knew that the event was going to happen. This "expert" did not expand on how long before the event did those people know. I find it a bit odd that there are two others who have also been arrested. Who are these other two and what did they do. It has been reported that several IEDs were also disarmed but little detail given other than one was a car bomb

 

He is not mentally ill. He is evil. The need to pathologize evil is profoundly misguided.

This is why people should read the manifesto. Know thy enemy. He is not insane. He knows what he is doing. He has a plan. It is warped and evil, but rational (in a cause and effect sense).

 

Actually they Muhammeds genealogy all the way back to Ishmael.
They name every person.

You're not sure how they do that, huh.

By lying about it..naturally.

 

Yes, there are genealogies from the line of Isaac and the line of Ishmael.
Not sure how you can say people are "lying" without producing the evidence
of the lies.
Where we CAN check, the data confirms some of these biblical genealogies.
At the moment this male Y chromosomal haplotype for the Cohanim line has
been confirmed (Cohanim were the Levite priests who come from Aaraon, the
brother of Moses.) I am sure we will one day identify the various Jewish tribes,
maybe even find out what happened to the ten lost tribes.

 

No, they haven't realized anything yet and those who have are ostracized as 'racist'. But instead of changing their policies they'll insist that the citizens, in this case New Zealanders, become more 'multicultural'.

You have to wonder at the rationale for bringing Muslims into the country in the first place. They must know what has happened elsewhere.

 

Correct......... for a Christian to buy into the
extreme hatred that is taught by some Christians
and commit a terrorist attack against Muslims is the same thing
as when a Muslim buys into lies taught to them, (often by Marxist actors posing as
Muslims and quoting the Koran but whose goal is often to discredit religion in all forms
because Marxists are forced to believe in Atheism from their childhood)!


Russia and its influence on Mideast terrorism...

One Christian near death experiencer was shown a Muslim, who had accepted Messiah Issa - Jesus - Yeshua
as his Saviour going to heaven at the same time that a Christian that he knew who refused to forgive......
went off in another direction with other people who also refused to forgive!

https://www.near-death.com/religion/christianity/emanuel-tuwagirairmana.html


I quote part of your message over here and began a poll:



What is the difference between an Islamic vs a Christian terrorist?

 

Muhammed was an orphan, almost died as a child.
was adopted into the Qusayy family everyone was illiterate.
Qusayy family and the Quarech tribe were from Yemen

Now Islam claims they have Muhammeds genealogy all the way back to Ishmael
Why Muhammed and no one else
What did these people write on, camel bones.
What language did they write in, they were illiterate.
Where are these now.

I can just see when Muhammed was tossed out of Mecca.

And take your ten tons of camel bones with you.

And this info was written in the 10th century.

 

I liken it to Spaniards who immediately rushed to convert to Catholicism, rather than risk being labeled as heretics by sadistic inquisitors. It's impossible to learn from history's greatest mistakes when you've devoted a century to revising most of it.

 

I might not be the sharpest knife in the PF block matey, but neither do I write nonsense. If you want to engage me on something I've said, then do so.

 

Money.
The Islamic countries own much of the west.
So politicians are not going to condemn it, but rather skate around it.

 

I know next to nothing about this Mohamed guy. He's like another
Joseph Smith of the Mormon line or Taze Russel of the Jehovah
Witnesses to me.
But in the Bronze Age people could read and write. The bible was
written in the Akkadian text in King David and King Solomon's time.
Maybe on parchment, maybe papyrus - the original texts have long
since turned to dust.

 

The difference is this - you cannot have a Christian terrorist because the term
is oxymoronic and contradictory. The founder of Christianity was a man of peace
who taught his followers to love their enemies, to not forcibly convert, turn the
other cheek when struck, not seek earthly treasures.
If someone kills in the name of Christianity they are not Christian.

But Mohamed was a warlord. His armies conquered as he instructed. He was
the first Jihadist Jew killer. His Quran is full of edicts concerning infidels and
disbelievers. A Muslim terrorist can find any number of texts supporting his
acts.