News of Maidan

I was waiting for our dear colleagues from Ukraine and western Europe to inform the others about some news from Maidan. But it seems they are not that willing to.

http://rt.com/news/178836-kiev-no-hot-water/

Those people who demanded entrance to EU and who died establishing a new rule refuse to leave from the streets. They are still there. As anti-russian as always. The reaction to the attempt of new power to move them off the streets has sent 50 policemen to hospital. At least 10 peaceful protesters (are they still peaceful in the western press?) were taken to police. The same attempt in november last year drew a wave of comments from western leaders. Do we have anything like that now?

What is most interesting BOTH parts are accusing the other of being connected to Putin. Maidanners (aka maidowns) suspect the new power of being against the regular ukrainian people which on default tells that Putin was somewhere behind. The new power is telling that all the true revolutioaries were gone from Kiev to fight against Donetsk and Lugansk people and the guys left in the area are gangs of criminals, 'titushki' (paid Putin's agents of ukrainian nationality) and agents of Russian special forces (the same who are making war in Donbass according to western politicians). I wonder who is right in the opinion of western reader? Or maybe evil Putin controls both sides?

 

Police in Kiev are clashing with Maidan protesters that never left and have been camping out and holding several government buildings since the protests earlier this year.

Several police have been injured. The protesters have erected new blockades and are burning tires.

How will this play out? Apparently things are not, and haven't been hunky-dory in Kiev.

http://rt.com/news/178612-maidan-clashes-police-activists/

 

http://en.voicesevas.ru/news/yugo-v...rpathia-an-uprising-is-born-against-kiev.html

Pravda.ru’ reports that the actions of the protesters against mass military mobilisation in the Transcarpathia region are turning into a full scale uprising. Local residents are blocking the roads, stopping trains and are taking over the control of places of strategic importance. The town of Mukachevo is at the heart of the rebellion. Protesters have also taken actions in the Mukachevo region: villages of Chervenovo, Domboki and Strabichevo, in the Beregove region: villages of Gat and Muzhievo and four towns in the Hustsky region.

On 3rd of August, Dmytri Dzygovbrodsky, a blogger, published the report of Prime Minister of the People’s Republic of Carpathian Ruthenia, Peter Getsko, on the current situation in the region.

“Transcarpathia is one step away from a full-blown riot. We will witness what it will grow into, in the next couple of days. People of the People's Republic of Carpathia are against the military mobilisation of its citizens for Kiev’s fascist war. Citizens of the People's Republic of Carpathia demand autonomy. Everything is being decided right at this moment. Hopefully, a second front will be opened. I think if this was to happen, it would terrify Kiev and force them to take a step back. Kiev doesn’t have the resources to fight the Ruthenians and the Hungarians” -commented Getsko.

‘BFM.RU’ reports that Alina Eprimyan, a journalist from channel ‘Russia Today‘, has been detained in the Transcarpathia region by representatives of the Ukrainian Security Service, while filming footage of a rally against mobilization that took place in the village of Rakoshino. According to Eprimyan, after a lengthy interrogation, all footage was confiscated and she was deported from the area.

 

This is it. Ukraine is falling apart. Those Trans-Carpathians are real separatists. It would be good to let them go and free the remaining Ukraine to its own devices. Interesting how Poroshenko will stay in power under this very shaky conditions? Those neo Fascist style nationalists are "peaceful" protesters in eyes of EU leaders, but they will torpedo their original plans of grabbing the whole Ukraine. Poroshenko, Nuland, Obama and Putin are temporary leaders in history, but Russia and Ukraine are forever and nobody will make them enemies of each other.

 

They need an oligarch sugar daddy to do to them what was done to the protesters in Odessa. Burning a few people alive and hacking them to death should do the trick.

 

Neither side, in my opinion. There are no "good guys" in this fight.

 

The Maidan government in Kiev is inept and helpless, because Poroshenko wanted to please both nationalists and "centrists". He wanted to down pro-Russians, but, at the same time, he had to kill in eastern Ukraine. The country is breaking into pieces. The house divided cannot stand. Interesting how few Ukrainian members in this forum. One of them was clearly a pro Russia, but he vanished. Is he still live and OK? The other one seems reflected interests of trans-Carpathian nationalists. Where are pro-Russians from Ukraine? They are silent majority there for well known reasons. Ukraine took the first place in the world by number of harassed and killed journalists, ahead of Muslim fanatics!

 

Have there ever been?

 

A fair question. No human endeavor is perfect, and "goodness" is certainly subjective.

You asked for a westerner's point of view. As a US citizen, I see no moral nor ethical reason for my nation to support either side in this conflict.

 

Sometimes it is good to listen to the answer which just makes at least some sense. That's quite rare thing. Thanks.

 

Well, this won't help...

Kiev turns off the hot water.

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http://rt.com/news/178836-kiev-no-hot-water/

Kiev has turned off hot water throughout the city in an attempt to save gas for the winter months. The Ukrainian government is unsure how long people will be affected, or whether the measure will be enough to ensure winter heating.

READ MORE: Horror in Lugansk: Family of 5 killed in E.Ukraine after Kiev shells their home

Utility company Kievenergo cut gas supplies to all thermal power plants that warm the water supplied to households, adding that it received the order from the Ministry of Energy and Coal Mining. “All the thermal power plants have had their gas supply cut as of August 4,” the company said.

General director Alexander Fomenko said the move was needed in order to save gas for the cold winter ahead.

Kiev has about 1.2 billion cubic meters of gas for heating, Itar-Tass reported. Head of utilities in Kiev, Dmitri Novitsky, noted that it is not enough to regularly supply gas during winter months. “If we don’t start saving gas now, then we will have big problems in winter,” Novitsky said.

Kiev’s mayor Vitaly Klitschko said on Monday that all hot water provided by municipal boilers to Soviet-built apartment buildings will be turned off until at least October. “We are obliged to renounce hot water in order to save gas supplies for the winter. We hope for the understanding of Kievans,” said Klitschko.

Hot water is usually turned off in all older apartment buildings for pipe cleaning during the summer months. But this shutdown is estimated to last well into the fall and there are no guarantees that it will be enough to ensure a stable gas supply during the winter months.

Other cities across Ukraine plan to follow in Kiev’s footsteps.

Those most affected by the shutdown will be millions of lower class families living in Soviet-built apartments that solely depend on a centralized energy supply.

Local media reported that 60 percent of Kiev is already without hot water and cautioned that the shutdown may translate into deep discontent for Kiev citizens.

 

“If there is disturbance in the camp, the general's authority is weak. ”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Quite a commendable tactic by the pro Russians, I could say.

 

I don't think they're particularly pro-Russian. There's also anti-war protests all over the country plus Transcarpathia is a simmering pot.

All in all, not good for the junta. Poroshenko has to button all this up fast.

Tick-tock, tick-tock ......

 

http://02varvara.wordpress.com/2014/08/06/transcarpathian-gambit/

The Ukrainian junta launched a third wave of mobilisation to make good losses suffered in Novorossiya. It hit big bumps on the way. Nobody wants to be cannon fodder for the junta, just to add to the death toll of thousands. People ran away from different regions of the country, even ones situated far from the conflict zone, to find refuge in Russia. Many of them are male citizens of military age. The situation in the Western Ukraine, especially Podkarpatskaya Rus, is explosive, with people’s discontent ripening. The region buried 70 countrymen who lost their lives in the Donbass battles. The anger against the junta is growing…

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In the past, Podkarpatskaya Rus was part of Austria-Hungary, Czechoslovakia, and Romania, so, it has a mixed population. There are large Magyar, Slovak, Romanian, and Roma (gypsy) communities, but the Rusins are the majority. Unlike the USA and Europe, the Ukraine refuses to recognise the very existence of the Rusin people. At census time, and in their passports, the Ukrainians forcibly register Rusins as Ukrainians. The Ukrainian government refused to recognise the results of the 1991 referendum on granting Podkarpatskaya Rus autonomy. It all fuels a rising resentment. The February putsch in Kiev gave the Rusin and Magyar movements for autonomy a new impetus. The Euromaidantsy exacerbated the situation by repressions against the Magyar minority. Therefore, Rusins and Magyars joined forces, coordinated their activities, and formed a united front to protest the third phase of mobilisation announced by Poroshenko.

Rusin leader Pyotr Getsko said that 90.9 percent of all the peoples in Podkarpatskaya don’t recognise P A Poroshenko as the legitimate Ukrainian President. When asked about the unravelling of the operations in Donbass, where the repression operation is proceeding, 76.9 percent said that yellow-blue {the colours of the Ukrainian flag: editor}, not brown, is now the colour of fascism… a plague that revived in the Ukraine in our time. The peoples of Podkarpatskaya refused to comply with the junta’s demand that they go to war against other Ukrainian citizens. They block roads, including international motorways; they picket recruitment offices and other state buildings.

Family members of draftees blocked the roads near the Tereblya River in Tyačev Raion, and the Mukačevo-Rogatin motorway near Sinevir. On 30 July, the head of local administration in Sinevir tried to unblock the road and convince the local people to comply with the government order. The protesters sliced up the tires of his car. Traffic stopped on the Čop-Kiev motorway near Rakošino and Strabičоvo, as well as the road going around from Mukačevo to Užgorod through Červenyovo and the road through Čop from Mukačevo. Protesters threatened to block the railway near Goronda and the mountain pass crossing through the Carpathians at Nizhnie Vorota, which is an important pass from Podkarpatskaya Rus to the Ukraine. A few days earlier, protest actions took place in Dombrovka and Červenyovo of Mukačevo Raion, and in four towns of Khust and Beregovо Raions. A mass protest took place in Beregovo (mainly populated by Magyars), demonstrators from Beregovo, Dyida, and Velikiye Berega surrounded a recruiting office. Marta Chok said, “They called 11 men aged 18 to 45 for service. They people tore up the call-up papers; the women blocked the road. Traffic going to Hungary had to find another route”. The Rusins and Magyars aren’t alone in protesting the draft. Roma refused to answer the call-up; they refused to kill Donbass people. They started to erect barricades. The local head of the recruiting office had to admit that the conscription was illegal and had to stop the draft procedures in that district.

Conscription only applies to ordinary people. According to reports from Kiev, the former interim “president” and incumbent Rada speaker A V Turchinov recently fired an enlistment official who dared to send a call-up paper to draft his son. YouTube removed a video of people in Mukačevo vociferously confronting a recruitment official on the pretext of copyright violation. In panic, Kiev gave orders to “normalise” the situation in Mukačevo and re-start draft at any cost by 5 August. Ukrainian law provides tough punishment for draft dodgers and those who resist conscription, but discontent continues to grow. People ask, “What are we fighting for? Why aren’t the kids of high officials called into service?” For instance, the son of V I Balogh, the boss of Clan Balogh in Podkarpatskaya, isn’t going off to the war. Why should only the poor be the ones to lose their lives? One of the girls amongst the protesters said that they drafted her father and one of her brothers at the same time. The family has six children.

The junta calls the protesters “agents of Moscow”. Everywhere in Podkarpatskaya, the junta authorities claim that they’re looking for “Russian journalists”, “separatists”, and “FSB agents”. They accused ten men of “activities aimed at creating obstacles on the roads”. Central Ukrainian media outlets are under censorship, or what the junta cynically calls “a moratorium on criticism of the government”, so, they pay no heed to events in Podkarpatskaya, and they harass journalists who try to tell the truth. The junta deported Alina Epremyan, a US journalist working for RT RUPTLY, from the Ukraine on 1 August. The video journalist worked in the Western Ukraine, in Rakošino in Podkarpatskaya. She was filming a story about the protests against sending men to the Novorossiya to take part in the repression operation. As in the case with Graham Phillips, the SBU removed all her videos. They deported Phillips to Poland, banning him from the country for three years {if the junta lasts that long!: editor}. The repressions feed people’s anger. Protesters in Rakhov Raion beat Lieutenant Colonel Yeremchyuk. Protestors forced Acting Užgorod Mayor Viktor Shchadei from Clan Balogh and his deputy Aleksandr Volosyansky to resign. Public utilities workers armed with stiff street-cleaning brushes chased them out of the building.

Sergei Ratushnyak, the former mayor of Užgorod, used his Facebook page to call the people of the district to block all the four mountain roads leading to Galicia and the airport until Kiev grants the region the autonomy it voted for in the referendum of 1991. He believes the region can be economically independent, due to the transit fees for the use of seven gas routes going from Russia to Europe through its territory, with security guaranteed by getting hold of local weapons stockpiles. The region has a special feature. The larger ethnic minorities, Magyars, Slovaks, and Romanians, have close ties with the neighbouring states. The Hungarian political party Jobbik supports a Rusin-Magyar autonomy. It believes that an autonomy is the only way to find a solution to the region’s problems. According to Petro Getsko, 71.4 percent of the region’s population support this point of view.

If the protest continues to escalate and if the Kiev junta tried to use punitive action to quell it, like it does in the Donbass, Hungary and Romania wouldn’t ignore their compatriots living in the Western Ukraine. To avoid a division inside NATO, the USA and its European allies would have to overlook the support of “separatists” by Budapest and Bucharest to keep Kiev away from opening a Western front. It’d demonstrate NATO’s double standards, it’d inevitably damage the image of the USA and the EU, but they’d do anything to keep Hungary, Romania, and Slovakia inside the Euro-Atlantic structure. This unravelling of events would discredit the Ukrainian authorities, provoke unrest in other regions of the country, stymie Poroshenko’s war plans, and undermine the attempts of Washington and Brussels to demonise both Russia and the Donbass opolchenie. Will Washington and Brussels sacrifice Podkarpatskaya Rus to get a more valuable prize? What will they choose… will they give a green light to a war at the EU’s border, or, will they agree to cut Podkarpatskaya Rus free of the Ukraine? Time alone will tell us.

5 August 2014

Aleksandr Donetsky

Strategic Culture Foundation

 

Video& photo at link:

http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukrainians-stand-up-against-kiev-junta/5395217

I was forwarded a video clip from a friend in Kharkov, and was compelled to write about it. It gives me goosebumps and brings me to tears. As the evil NATO project to destroy Ukraine and attack Russia begins to implode from its own insane overreach, there is no substitute for the simple eloquence of people defending their lives and those of their families.

The truth is beginning to dawn, as would-be cannon fodder kids throughout Ukraine are burning their military writs, their families blocking roads, young men escaping to the woods and even to Russia. No fascist lie can live forever, and while the future is far from clear, there is beginning to be some hope that the chickens may yet come home to roost in a major way.

This declaration is especially powerful in the original Russian, but is subtitled in English, and I have transcribed it here as well. It deserves the widest possible redistribution. The story and pictures [Her name was Christine] have already circulated widely. But this oath sends chills down my spine:

“Я не забуду это . И если я забуду о них, пусть Бог забудет обо мне.” (I will not forget this. And if I do forget about them, may God forget about me.)

A Russian friend recently expressed surprise and gratitude to see a western writer speak out with such passion and commitment. To my Russian friends, and to all my readers generally, I can only say that it is not with any false humility that I deflect any praise, and pass it along rightly to the heroes who are fighting for their lives and those they love—and, in a crucial way, fighting for us all. My response is instinctive and axiomatic, and is beautifully encapsulated in the above quote. If I forget about them, may God forget about me. If I do not speak out, I sever the bond that connects me to the rest of humanity, and lose my soul. This truth is like oxygen to me.

Every struggle produces its own eloquence, and spawns its own generation of Padraig Pearses and Robert Emmet. With these I am familiar because of my ancestry, and I *will* their words to seep into my soul to keep me honest: “To my people I say that they are holy, that they are august despite their chains—that they are greater than those that hold them, and stronger, and purer.” (Pearse) “…if it were possible to collect all the innocent blood that you have shed in your unhallowed ministry, in one great reservoir, your Lordship might swim in it.” (Emmet)

Words fail me, and even when they don’t, they pale in comparison to those of the heroes made eloquent every day by fighting on the right side of history.

YouTube Oath of Ukrainian

“Look at this picture. This is what Kiev punitive forces did today in Gorlovka. Ukranian patriots. Euromaidaners. “Conscious” and “United Ukrainers.”

I, Dygovbrodsky, Dmitry Alexandrovich, a citizen of Ukraine and a Ukrainian by origin, a true son of the heroic Russian people, swear that I will not stand aside and I will not lay down arms until the last Ukrainian conscious fascist bastard on our land has been destroyed, for the burnt towns and villages, for Lugansk, Donetsk, and Slavyansk, for the residents of Odessa on 2nd May, for the death of our women and children, for the torture and humiliation of my people,

I, Dygovbrodsky, Dmitry Alexandrovich, a citizen of Ukraine and a Ukrainian by origin, swear, to revenge the Ukrainian nazis without mercy and without rest, blood for blood, death for death. I pledge to assist the Army of Novorossiya by all means at my disposal to kill the insane Ukrainian radicals, with my own life. I pledge to destroy the Ukrainian thugs wherever I go, every minute of my life, because this fascist country has no right to exist.

I, Dygovbrodsky, Dmitry Alexandrovich, a citizen of Ukraine and a Ukrainian by origin, swear, that I would rather die in a fierce fight with the enemy than to let myself, my family, my land and all the people of Novorossiya be enslaved by a fascist Banderite government.

This baby girl and this woman have been killed by the Kiev punitive forces in Gorlovka. I will not forget this. And if I do forget about them, may God forget about me.”

 

[video=youtube;cvntt-PxuBU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cvntt-PxuBU[/video]

 

This is why we have so few members from Ukraine in this forum. This is a breaking down nation.

 

It seems the government is bringing out the tanks and big guns. Hey, didn't Nuland warn Yanukovich not to stop the 'peaceful' protesters at Maidan, even when they were killing and burning the police and soldiers? So where is their outcry now, as the army attacks these new 'peaceful' protesters? But then again where was their outcry when the protesters were burned in Odessa and Mariupol?

I think the illusion of what the U.S. once was has remained in people's minds, and they're not aware of what it has become. Somehow people still believe there is still some decency and justice left in Washington.

Lord, what fools these mortals be? (William Shakespeare)

 

And now from the war front a translation from Greek Defensenet:

This afternoon an ambush was set up in the region of Donbass by the Self-Defense Forces of New Russia and destroyed the Ukrainian battalion "Krivbass", killing the Ukrainian General Vladimir Kardabnev who was wanted for war crimes. The losses were heavy and Kiev was forced to admit the loss of the General.

While the army was performing a task to capture a checkpoint in the village of Maryanovka near Donetsk, they were ambushed by the Self-Defense Forces of Donestk People's Republic. After a great deal of losses the Ukrainians began to pull back. The purpose of the ambush was to kill Vladimir Kardabnev and the other war criminal mercenary Maxim Kachur, who belongs to the neo-Nazi "left field". The General was known to be involved in drug trafficking.

They both commanded the battalion 'Krivbass' famous for the abuse and murder of civilians and prisoners. This battalion had also tortured Roman Hnatiuk of the Ukrainian TV channel "112".

The Ukrainian Parliament headed by Sergey Gorokhov said that since the beginning of the "anti-terrorist operation" more than ten thousand have been killed. "In the first half of July more than 2,500 soldiers were killed and 5000 have been injured. With the assistance of the West, they are able to cover up their losses. Poroshenko will not let the people know of the losses, and many believe their loved ones are still fighting at the front. According to testimonies of residents in the area, there are trucks loaded with corpses heading in unknown directions.

It's these losses that have been freaking Vladimir Putin out, and he said these boys are being sent into battle without any training. I have no doubt that when the war is over, if it ever is, Poroshenko and the other criminals will be saying that the soldiers were taken into Russia and killed.

As for the General being in drug trafficking, I recall people in Odessa saying that the murderers gave the appearance of being drugged up.

 

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