Next Trump impuence: US will "now put tariffs on $11 billion of EU products"

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  1. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    Source (example):

    https://www.forexlive.com/news/!/tr...tariffs-on-11-billion-of-eu-products-20190409

    https://www.rt.com/business/455973-...notifications&utm_campaign=push_notifications

    Donald Dumbass wrote on Twitter:

    "The World Trade Organization finds that the European Union subsidies to Airbus has adversely impacted the United States, which will now put Tariffs on $11 Billion of EU products! The EU has taken advantage of the U.S. on trade for many years. It will soon stop!"

    Seriously?
    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:


    THAT is the height of insolence in lies and deceit by this idiot whom the Americans have elected to be their president. For this distortion of the truth, he would have to get 5 years in jail ... and he's going to talk about evil fake news in the White House ... he's the Lord of Fake News from today!

    FACT:
    In the year-long dispute over state subsidies for the US aircraft manufacturer Boeing, the World Trade Organization (WTO) has decided in favor of the EU and its European rival Airbus. The Appellate Body ruled on 28/03/2019 that Washington had not stopped all subsidies deemed illegal for Boeing as requested. The WTO had already classified a number of US state billion dollar subsidies to Boing as illegal in 2012 and called on the US to end them.

    So nothing but revenge ... and of course not a word about this WTO decision, eh?

    The US constantly accuses others of not doing free and fair competition ... to the detriment of the US. Nice ... only the US does it no different than the ones they accuse for. Example?


    The fleet of KC-135 tankers of the USAF urgently needs a successor, so there was a tender, in which Boing took on a variant of the 767 against Airbus with a variant of the A330. Airbus won the tender and what happened then? A huge outcry and uprising of US policy, because it can not be that Airbus wins. It is not important that the USAF gets the best tanker possible, but that it is an American product ... as it has often done before with other US military tenders. Result ... all over again and this time wins Boing. Really great and fair ...
    The funny thing is, meanwhile, that the Boeing KC-46 still can not properly service, while the Airbus aircraft is already selling loosely in the not very large market for military tankers in the world.
    Result: The KC-46 will end up being used only by the USAF ... maybe by Israel because the US can put enough pressure on it, but the rest flies the Airbus. This increases the acquisition costs for the USAF and thus the US taxpayer pays more!
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Trump is doing an exceptional job of making enemies of former friends.
     
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    The USAF should buy American tankers
     
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    The anti-trade, unconstitutional tax loving "Tariff Man" strikes again.
     
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    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    Indeed ...

    And when the EU is doing counter actions now ... who is then for all these Trumpomians the evil and dark side again? The EU only ... lead by Germany as usual.

    And then some Americans come with ungrateful when we Europeans are pissed off with this behavior .... rediculous!

    No matter what is better in use for the USAF? Interesting opinion...
     
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    This was a judgement in the WTO. This isn't Trump being unilateral, it's the US following the guidelines of the WTO.. Perhaps the EU forgot about that...
     
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    There is nothing wrong wiyj the Boeing tanker

    I suspect the euros are subsidizing airbus in order to undercut the price
     
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    That's right. Fake news by the OP. The US is considering $11Billion in retaliatory tariffs.....meaning we've been getting hosed since 2004, when this issue started.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/09/us-...oods-in-retaliation-for-airbus-subsidies.html

    Just one more time a Trump hater jumped the gun not knowing the issue.
     
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    As did the US with Boing ... but illegal and not legal way by WTO rules?

    Loool .... Have you read my OP really ... what was decision on 28. March of WTO again, eh? So WTO spreads Fake News or what do you mean?
     
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    Ehm ... Maybe the US forgot their illegal funding of Boing as WTO tells, eh?
     
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    why does Government solve all problems for the right wing?
     
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    I am not a brainless free trader

    I want to keep manufacturing in the US

    So I want the USAF to by the Boeing tankers
     
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    For which the WTO found against the US. I don't see that you started a thread about that then, did you? but now, this is different? You seem unable to keep up. So, why not just admit that you were wrong, that your thread induced a false perception?
     
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    American arrogance has been known for many long years. It has greatly increased in this time of Trump.
     
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    "Revenge" is sweet. Isn't it? ;-)
     
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    In fact,m the WTO rated in May 2018 the Subsidies to Airbus as illegal, particularly and directlxy named for the A380 and A350 airliner

    And now in March 2019 the same WTO rated the US Subsides for Boing the same way as illegal.

    What happens? Bush takes the 2018 issue to reason his step ..., and ignores the March 2019 issue.

    Maybe the EU can do the same now with reasoning the March issue as valid answer, eh? Trump is such an idiot ... breathtaking!

    OK ... your opinion I accept but not share and which I find strange. Anyway ... but please then no whining about unfair competition next time when an US products loose competition same way in Europe. Agreed?
     
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    Sure ... and so when Trump takes the May 2018 rating of WTO against Airbus as reason now ... we Europeans will take the WTO rating of March 2019 against Boing as reason for our counter strike! Revenge is sweet, isn't it?
     
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    Yeah, but it's still now where near the level of the Krauts and the Frogs. I'm all for ending subsidies.....especially the one that funds your safety, i.e. NATO. Bye bye. :flagus:
     
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    The Euros can do whatever they please

    This is a decison of the US Air Force not the Luftwaffe
     
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    Does the EU enjoy a trade surplus with the US? ;-)
     
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    The issue, and key findings, are far more complex than this poorly argued post would suggest.

    To anyone actually interested in facts, (and perhaps needing a way to fall asleep at night), here is a link to the WTO and the long history of these disputes.

    https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/dispu_e/dispu_subjects_index_e.htm

    Click on the topic "Aircraft" and get real facts.
     
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    We have a Commerce Clause.
     
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    Then tell me, how much and for what US US taxpayer for the security of NATO in Europe spend again ... for example, the evil Germany?

    The 15,000 US soldiers stationed here, of which not even half are combat troops (2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment) and where the rest ... knows, for example, the huge Air Base in Ramstein serves all possible US interests in the world, but not for NATO affairs ... and where does Germany pay properly for maintenance even though the base is only used by the US?

    But we need to put 2% of GDP into defense right away, even though the US-signed Wales agreement says it's not supposed to happen until 2024 ... and because we remind the United States of this treaty, we're natural ungrateful! Of course, who would have expected anything else? In the end, it's always the evil Krauts, they're guilty!
     
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    NATO became irrelevant decades ago.

    It is really just a western terrorist organization, waging wars of aggression very far away from the North Atlantic.

    I'm all for getting the hell out of it. I'm for disbanding it.
     
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    Poorly argued post ... Lol

    Fact:

    In May 2018 WTO rated subsides to Airbus as illegal = reason for Trumps step now ...

    In March 2019 WTO rates US subsides to Boing as illegal ... but about this no word and silence. But this will be the reason for EU counter strike then.

    Simple like this in 5 rows told with all complexity you mean...
     

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