Nike Says Client Serena Williams Best Athelete Ever Regardless of Gender

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  1. Your Best Friend

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    Is this even remotely true? Is Serena Williams the best athlete ever? Through all time and in all sports? Male or female?
    Or is this absurd commercialized hype and wishful bull crap? It seems obvious to me it's Nike trying to hype their client with a ridiculous
    campaign. It's barely worth contemplating, really. Nike sucks.
     
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    Bullchit. She ain't even the best Black female athelete . . . well, if it is female.
     
  3. Arleigh

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    The "best athlete ever", the "best female/male athlete ever" are subjective debates.

    However, Nike jumped the shark awhile ago with paying millions upon millions to Tiger Woods in face of his cheating. Nike also paid Sharapova more money in endorsements than Serena in 2015, so they are just jumping on the Serena attaining 22 slams bandwagon this year. Plus, Katrina Adams proclaimed this moniker last year, so, where was Nike last year on this?

    They suck for me in that regard.

    No doubt Serena is one of the greatest athletes to have played the sport of tennis. If you have ever had the opportunity to actually see her in compete in person, you would appreciate all that she brings to the table, provided you are a normal person yourself who may or may not have competed in athletics.

    I think athletes like Pele, Michael Jordan, Michael Phelps, Rod Laver, Roger Federer, Margaret Court, Martina Navatrilova and others could also be debated as the "best athlete ever".

    We agree Nike sucks, but for different reasons. Buy Adidas instead.
     
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    As a matter of fact I do buy Adidas or Asics foot wear and don't plan on ever
    rewarding Nike with my business. Yes, Nike is hyping a client during the US Open (it would be nice if someone could send her home early) but the claim is
    so extreme it just seems bizarre more than anything else.
    The list of athletes, male and female, who are better athletes than Williams would fill the rest of this post. Williams is the best female tennis player of her era
    but that's about the most you can say about her.
    Her serve is exceptional and she competes very well. She hits the ball very hard and moves well, but not great by any means.
     
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    In terms of domination at her absolute prime - she is the greatest athlete ever and the only competition is Usain Bolt followed by Tiger Woods followed by Michael Phelps
    In terms of body of work - she just needs to get a couple more major titles then that part is sealed too

    In 3 years, there will be no question she was the greatest of all time.
     
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    What about Micheal Jordan for Christ sake. How can you claim that Serena Williams is a greater athlete that Micheal Jordan? For Nike to say this junk is a massive insult to Micheal Jordan.

    I cant stand Serena Williams and her cranky feminism. And I also hate that she is so very ugly. I prefer to see hot female tennis players. And no it isnt because she is black - it is because she is so ugly. I also hate Australias top female tennis player Samantha Stosur. Oh my God she is ugly. Samantha Stoser is uglier than Serena Williams. If you can believe it.

    [video=youtube;sUz3ZYfoNxo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUz3ZYfoNxo[/video]

    I am boycotting Nike as well. Conservatives buy shoes too. Nike should remember that.

    edit - I am sick to death of corporations pushing this feminist bullcrap. And liberalism. Is Nike a business or some some kind of liberal 'social enterprise'? Modern liberal US cultural hegemony appeals to the global liberal minority. Dont these $%$%wits understand that?
     
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    She's a great tennis player and she wins a lot, but I don't think she is the "best" athlete of all time. She found her niche though. She is definitely much bigger and stronger than most women. Every time I see her, I'm like, wow! She is a BEAST! :laughing: I'll bet she could kick most guy's butts! Lol! I wouldn't want to make her angry at me, that's for sure!
     
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    Jordan = team sport...much harder to be best as it is far more subjective. Notice I put individual athletes next to Serena: Bolt, Woods, Phelps. those guys are clear cut. you mention Jordan then you have to mention Tom Brady, Deion Sanders, Bo Jackson etc. Honestly, Tony Hawk should be mentioned before any of those guys.

    team sport you have a lot of grey areas such as leadership, teammate, not just physical ability and athletic skill.
     
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    HA! Tony Hawk? I would like to see Tony Hawk dunk from the free throw line. And Brent Barrys free throw line is awesome but it is not as impressive as Jordans. Jordan dribbles the ball down court and dunks as he would and could in a game, plus Jordan has the time to double pump, and has way more style.

    And there is plenty of room for individualism and individual achievement in team sports - especially basketball - and Micheal Jordan is the greatest. You cant put Tom Brady or those other guys in the same sentence as Micheal Jordan. Muhammad Ali. And I would argue very strongly that Carl Lewis is greater than stupid Bolt. Phelps is pretty impressive I guess but it is swimming. Who cares? And I guess Tiger Woods had a good run - but I think his success says more about the sport during his career. In my opinion he was a bit of a caretaker. It seems that a lot of people consider Jack Nicklaus to be the greatest golfer of all-time. Who were the rivals of Tiger Woods? When I was a kid there were lots of good golfers that would challenge each other and I think that if Tiger had played in that era he would not have had the career that he ended up having. But yeah I would put Tiger Woods before Serena Williams. But Tiger Woods would not even make my top ten greatest athletes list.

    [video=youtube;3toFlRh0_J8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3toFlRh0_J8[/video]
     
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    Shaun White too. skateboarding is magnitudes more difficult than playing basketball. if you can walk, you can play ball. balancing on a piece of wood on 4 wheels takes months to master just moving in a straight line. it risks life and limb to start to do tricks. people get paralyzed and die skateboarding.
    Yet hawk managed to do things that were just incomprehensible. his accomplishments cast shadows over team sport guys. i had a buddy of mine try riding my miniboard saturday, he is an ex college football guy and snowboarder...he stepped on by the time he got his weight on it he went straight back and ass first into the ground. girls were around and everything. he got hurt a little too. just a glimpse as to what that sport is about when an athletic dude cant just 'jump right in' to it.
     
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    Beauty is also subjective.

    I have seen both Serena and Sam Stosur in real life, off the tennis court, and they both are beautiful.

    I prefer women to be evaluated on what they accomplish and not their looks.

    Gisele Bunchen sure is hot, but she ain't hanging on your arm, is she?
     
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    A great, a legend, way before her time, her name will always be remembered.....Yes.

    But the greatest athlete of all time??? No she really is not. The greatest athletes of all time are never mentioned because their span as an athlete is very very short, so it's hard really to determine who is or could be the best ever.

    I speak about gymnasts, both male and female , who truly take athleticism to a whole different level. Olympic Triathletes have to be up there as well, but they are even less mentioned because the sport is not a multi billion dollar industry.

    But nonetheless both of those sports take way more athleticism than tennis by far.
     
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    Sam Stoser is very very ugly.

    And Gisele Bunchen isn't very hot. She has a mans jaw. Her jaw is massive and it makes her look masculine. Is she Brazilian? Brazilian chicks mostly look like men too. Its as if they have too much testosterone. I have $%$%ed hotter chicks than Gisele Bunchen. But what is "she isn't on your arm" supposed to mean? What are you trying to say? ( I had to Google Gisele Bunchen to see what she looked like. She does not interest me in any way. Not on my radar. She does have a massive jaw. And she also looks pleby/like a peasant)

    Edit - She is Brazilian. HA! I hate Brazilian chicks. They all look like dudes.
     
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    Serena is engaged!



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