Nikki Haley says Trump was always "truthful"

So Trump's numerous accomplishments are all lies? Is that what you're saying? I answered the OP very well, but thanks for the opportunity to underscore everything I've posted so far.

Sharpie 2, the sequel. LOL.

 

I've looked at your article. I got as far as the economic "accomplishments" and, yes, it all appears to be lies. Every major economic indicator was already on an upward trend when Trump took office. I don't see how anyone who can read a graph can credit him for the economy. I've posted those graphs multiple times on the forums.

Employment? Trump inherited an upward trend.
Consumer confidence? Trump inherited an upward trend.
Dow Jones? Trump inherited an upward trend.
NASDAQ? Trump inherited an upward trend.
S&P 500? Trump inherited an upward trend.

I can keep going if you want. Trump is just continuing his long tradition of trying to slap his name on something and calling it his accomplishment.

Do the trends look good? Yes. They also look just like they did under Obama, where they also looked good. Crediting the President for the economy just because he is in the Oval Office is superstition. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Obama supporters confused correlation with causation; Trump supporters can't even get the correlation part right.

This is what is known as "The rooster taking credit for the sunrise." And it was already mid-morning when this particular rooster started crowing. If I tried taking credit for any business metrics like this in my line of work, the way Trump has lied and taken credit for macroeconomic metrics, I'd get a stern warning at best. If I did it again, I'd probably be fired on the spot.

 

Eric Ciaramello is now under investigation for a, "Go Fund Me," page, where his position forbids that kind of undertaking. And he is also being looked at for a connection to a leaked phone call made to the Mexican president.

Horowitz is supposed to release his findings on November 18th.

The Democrats haven't denied anyone due process in the House since they railroaded Black Republicans during Re-Construction.

 

What has he been accused of? You continue to demonstrate why we are in trouble as a society.

 

LOL you were done before you ever got started.

 

He was caught extorting Ukraine to keep his son in a very high paying position, which employment arrangement was under investigation for corruption.

 

Yet another liberal calling Trump's accomplishments a bunch of lies. LOL. Nutso.

 

Nikki was proving she could lie like a rug while maintaining a straight face????

 

You seem to have a real problem reasoning. His "extortion" was endorsed by, well, almost everyone. Were they all trying to keep hunter in burisma?

 

You do not have a clue what side of the political spectrum I an in. You are also making a rash assumption that everyone who is not a rabid Trump supporter is a leftist, and that makes you wrong. But I am sure that you wil continue with your apparent delusion.

 

I'm no liberal, not that I'd expect someone with their head so far <edit> in the sand to notice anything that doesn't corroborate their views.

 

Lol...She wins the award for who's head is stuck furthest up trump's ass.
I've lost all respect for her.

 

I don't know what they were trying to do. Why should I, or anyone else, for that matter? But it's evident that the son, Hunter, had no qualifications at all for the job and was simply receiving a huge salary. Why?

 

Yeah right ... my but you are triggered.

 

Excellent retort! Strange how many of those who accuse others of Sovietism are just fine with an "American" president who takes the word of a actual Soviet KGB Col over our American Intel agencies. How "full Soviet" is that!

 

Proof? Not that I expect anything to actually follow.

Where is the proof that his son's employment arrangement was under investigation for corruption, that he knew of this, and that this was his motivation?

 

Yet another straw man.

 

Well, you've come a long way from biden being accused of criminal activity to this. No qualifications? He graduated from Yale with a law degree and had at least some executive experience so it's not like they hired.... you.
That said, no one claims that his last name didn't get him that job. I've also never heard the claim that he (hunter) did anything illegal. So, stop aping hannity. You're embarrassing yourself.

 

Some people are so dedicated to Trump worship that it is the only political position they know. Either you follow Trump unquestioningly and praise his every move, making you a "conservative," or you dare to question the God Emperor in any way, making you a liberal.

I've been called liberal on PF for being to the right of Trump on economics. Hell, I've been called a Marxist on PF for supporting a freer market.

 

You obviously can't understand well enough what I'm telling you to post anything but worn out cliche. The question was answered hundreds of times over.

 

Read the thread. You tried changing the subject to another claim entirely, misrepresenting what someone said to make it about something else. If hearing that you have made a logical fallacy is starting to sound cliche to you, then stop making them.

 

Bullshit.

 

Well, that wasn't very nice.

As far as I've read, I can't say that Biden broke any US laws, but it smells like Hunter might have been into something that broke Ukraine law(s), and the old man had to strong arm the government to save him.

Hunter Biden made $50,000 a month at Ukrainian Burisma Holdings in 2014 apparently doing nothing. In 2015, Ukraine assigned Shokin, a state prosecutor, to investigate Burisma's owner, who was also a government minister being investigated for multiple counts of corruption. Shokin was removed just a year later in 2016, having become the center of bribery allegations. That happened fast, yes?

Shokin was leading the corruption investigation into the company that employed Biden's son. He was removed because Joe Biden "threatened to withhold loan guarantees from Ukraine unless Shokin was fired", a charge Biden admits. One can surmise that whatever Hunter got mixed up in, it was rather serious. Wouldn't you say? We're not talking about some Euro-Asian mobsters here, but the Vice President of the US.
https://heavy.com/news/2019/09/joe-biden-ukraine/

Now, you tell me, what interest does the US have in any of this? NONE. It was all personal maneuvering, evidently quite profitable for the Bidens, but in a rather dark area for a Vice President, or if it wasn't, why would you say so?

 

Yeah I agree 100%, she is planning to run for office.

 

Great.

"Smells like" = you have no actual evidence.

Being a member of a board, no matter what the far left might try to get you to think, doesn't frequently involve "doing nothing."

According to Ukraine, the investigation into the company was shelved before that point and it doesn't look like Hunter himself was ever a target of the investigation.

Pretty much the entire Western world wanted Shokin fired. Biden's "threat" was in-line with the policies of the US and its allies.

So why was Trump pushing for it to be investigated and why did he want public declarations of the investigation?