Nine people shot and injured on Broadwalk in Hollywood

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  1. flyboy56

    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What defines a gang?
     
  2. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nope, sorry, but your accusation is false, as is almost always the case.

    My post from yesterday
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Legal definition example (varies by State):

    Definitions. (12) "Criminal street gang" means any ongoing organization, association, or group of three or more persons, whether formal or informal, having a common name or common identifying sign or symbol, having as one of its primary activities the commission of criminal acts, and whose members or associates individually or collectively engage in or have engaged in a pattern of criminal street gang activity.

    Gang – “Criminal gang” means a group or association of three or more persons, whether formal or informal, having:
    (1) a common name or common identifying sign(s) or symbol(s),
    (2) an identifiable, overt or covert leadership, organizational or command structure,
    (3) as one of its primary activities the commission of criminal acts,
    (4) individual or collective engagement in a pattern of criminal activity,
    (5) as one of its primary objectives or activities the commission of one or more, underlying crimes, including acts by juveniles that would be underlying crimes if committed by adults.

    (13) "Criminal street gang associate or member" means any person who actively participates in any criminal street gang and who intentionally promotes, furthers, or assists in any criminal act by the criminal street gang.
     
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  4. flyboy56

    flyboy56 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In other words a "group".
     
  5. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, not all groups are gangs. Would you call church congregation a gang? A dart league? A foursome at a golf course? As a matter of fact vast majority of groups are not gangs.

    Gang – “Criminal gang” means a group or association of three or more persons, whether formal or informal, having:
    (1) a common name or common identifying sign(s) or symbol(s),
    (2) an identifiable, overt or covert leadership, organizational or command structure,
    (3) as one of its primary activities the commission of criminal acts,
    (4) individual or collective engagement in a pattern of criminal activity,
    (5) as one of its primary objectives or activities the commission of one or more, underlying crimes, including acts by juveniles that would be underlying crimes if committed by adults.
     
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    2 “groups” with guns?! Come on man!
     
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    That last post you quoted was directed at another poster. I can only hold you responsible for the untruths you tell me.
     
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    You asked for a definition of 'gang' and I provided it. Can I help with anything else?
     
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    Still trying to deny that it was gang related?
     
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    Did you miss the opening definition where it used group in the same sentence as gang? Do church groups go around shooting each other?
     
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    Old Pro will argue about anything.
     
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    No, I did not miss it, I provided it, after you equated gangs with any group of people.

    No. That's my point, but at this time I have no idea if you have a point.

    Argue? You asked for definition for "gang" which I provided, but clearly I wasted my time.

    Some people.........

    Don't feed 'em folks.
     
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    If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, well then it must be a gang!
     
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    Its possible (like I said yesterday).

    So, now that you have confirmed it, we can do this.

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    to quote one of my late father's wisest friends (Justice Potter Stewart) "I know it when I see it"
     
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    Another "Florida Man" with a gun

     
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    And in that case the thing he saw was not what the claim was (porn).

    Same would be true about many of the overblown things of the current time we see and hear about. It seems nothing has changed in 55 years.
     
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    what's your point-the guy needs to be charged and convicted of criminal mischief
     
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    Too bad the AT&T guy didn't have his own gun. He could have ridded society of that problem.
     
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    I hear it is the Amish acting out again...
     
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    Take your meds if you are hearing things.
     
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    Not too big on juxtaposed analogy's, eh?
     
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    Socks with slides? Either they've been in jail before or someone in their nuclear family has.
     
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    You're friend's dad offing himself in front of you, or trying to, was not violence against a 3rd party.
    When you want to get the crime rate, the level of danger for the average person, you check the rate of violence dealt toward 3rd parties intentionally.
    Quit trying to use emotional manipulation, it doesn't work on any of us and quite frankly if you try it again I'm going to become rather cruel.
     
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    I wasn't in the room when it happened, but i was immediately after.

    I was talking about gun violence, not the crime rate. Everyone who saw his body that night was a victim of gun violence.
     

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