The only way for the EU to keep UK free trade is to be less fussy about what it can buy. That would also solve the problem the EU has with America too. All this 'state knows best' nonsense with regulations that are stopping American imports too. If UK converted to American and the EU became less of a snob, then, that would allow friction-less trade, but the EU are the ones stopping this.
A nother lesson from history. The UK joined the EEC because it was the sick man of Europe, broke, ruined, finished, a move of desperation. Because of the EEC and than EU That Island became rich, very rich. But with one little problem, its industry became foreign owned as a jumping point into the EU. There is hardly any UK industry left, worth mentioning, which is not foreign owned. It only exist because That Island has free excess to the EU, it is a service hot spot because of it. Nothing more. Scotlands oil and the financial sector in London, that's it. That's your UK. Without the EU. Give you an other hint even the US, which can not produce a trade profit with any significant country, has a trade profit with the UK. Sorry, out side the EU That Island is already a loser.
The elephant in the room here is there are 2 factions, viz. most UK politicians want to keep ties with the EU for future career opportunities there, and a delusional prime minister who is hell-bent on making it happen for them (albeit cloaked in the spurious propaganda of 'leaving in an orderly way'), and the EU hierarchy who are literally panic-stricken at the prospect of losing the UK's contributions, because they know it will spell the end of their bureaucratic dream when it falls down about their ears. In other words, we being shafted on two fronts, and with the little help from the useful-idiot remainers, I doubt that we can win against them.
Addendum to above post: This drunk-on-power, not-very-bright individual must be deposed before she causes irreparable damage to our country. I confidently predict that if she calls their bluff they'd cave in before you can say 'Irish backstop'!!
And she's loving every minute of it . . . But whatever anyone thinks of the woman, we must surely all admire her total self-belief - deluded though it is.
I had to think about the decision of the EU Council yesterday to understand it ... but then everything became clear! Bravo EU! Of course, the Pro Brexit people, especially the "No Deal Clowns", will now be foaming with rage, as long as they understand the depth of the decision ... but I think that's really good and they're supposed to stifle on their foaming with rage ! If there are any living brain cells left in the House of Commons by these politicians holding the Brexit, they will be able to get a majority in less than a month for a deal or a No Deal Brexit as a final decision. If not, then the Brexit has almost done and never happens ... with all the thing which are a rude nightmare for the Brexiteers ... and if toal worse ... a second referendum too! P.S. Slowly ... very slowly ... I have a suspicion that Theresa May does not really want to Brexit at all and everything she does is quite cleverly intent to bury the Brexit! Because if May really wants to Brexit, then she would not do as stupid as she has been doing for 3 years. - You send idiots to the exit negotiations with the EU, who are not interested in any deal their stupidity! - Making the Lord of Lies in the UK and Chief Brexiter Foreign Secretary so stupid that a pre-school kid can do the job better - You let all the idiots in Parliament so mangled that in the end, nothing, but nothing gets a majority - You ask the EU for extensions ... and sometime then so long that the Brexit done by itself, if the idiots in the parliament continue to mark de dumbass! Clever and smart if this is the case ...
Article 24 of the WTO treaty demands friction-less trade between UK and European countries while UK finds a new free trade deal. No deal Brexit would be fine because we'd go straight into WTO terms and our WTO says we have friction-less trade until we enter a free trade deal. I guess this is truly how the EU can't punish a country for leaving the bloc. A No-deal Brexit is an Article 24 Brexit.
If the PM wants to waste this time convincing us of her deal, why? If the PM and the EU wants to use this time to allow for a better deal, another more cherry picking deal, than, shouldn't we all be happy? We have until Halloween at the latest.
www.bbc.co.uk The World Trade Organization (WTO) is the leading international organisation that sets international rules for trade. Both theEuropean Union (EU) and the individual EU countries are members of the WTO. The European Commission represents theEU and the EU countries at all relevant WTO meetings. So if the EU causes friction in the event of a no deal before the UK agrees a free trade deal for its self, this would be in violation of my rights as a UK based consumer. Article 24 says: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/brexit/no-deal-brexit-and-wto-article-24-explained/ I agree with that opening interpretation and think any friction would be in violation of WTO terms which fall into affect in the event of a no deal/Article 24 Brexit.
Nobody voted to throw this country back to the stone age. This country is great, and we have the right to free trade with the EU while we seek a better deal, (and then you can cut it) despite whatever delusion Merkel might suggest in the Lisbon Treaty, we have the right to fall out of that and into the WTO treaty, I and 27 other countries seem to/not sure if it's even legal in Germany, IDK, but, this is not Germany, this is UK, so, I know we can leave the EU if we want to.
I'm understanding that you think this applies to the UK forever when it'll only apply to the UK while the UK seeks a free trade agreement for up to 10 years. It's also my understanding that you believe UK's like China or NZ or anyone else outside of the EU, Article 24 I believe applies to UK because the UK was in the EU and so has a prearranged dependence on the EU that should the EU or anyone other member within this EU try to block trade would be a violation of WTO. That's what a no deal Article 24 Brexit is. This is why it's illegal for this trading bloc to punish anybody for seeking to leave it promising a smooth exit for WTO/EU members and less scare mongering, it would be discriminatory to violate this as UK negotiates new trade deals.
I'm waiting to see if Parliament can see if it can accept the PM's deal with Donald Trump, I mean, when can we say, the EU's deal failed, NEXT! ?
No dis-respect, but, my head of state's in her 90's are you really going to make us wait a whole year? God Save the Queen.
What the UK believes is unimportant. It take 2 to Tango. You indicated in your previous posts that 24 demanded a automatic trade between the UK and the EU. Which is naturally wrong. The 2 sides have to engage into a meaningful trade negotiation, which than has to be agreed on by the members of the WTO, to warrant any special treatment concerning WTO tariff regulations. A hard Brexit would not automatically trigger 24, only if the EU and the UK would provide the needed proof to the WTO, that they are in serious negotiations, they could eliminate WTO tariffs. What you implicated, was a automatic, single sided way. Which naturally can not happen. Two to Tango.
Au contraire! It's actually what this non member guest only EU thinks that is "unimportant". For you see, this undermines the EU and the Lisbon Treaty, but it's still something the EU has agreed to in order to be so that member states can exit smoothly. To impose trade restrictions on the UK/former EU member as the market negotiates it's own free trade for 10 years is discrimination and fear tactics used by Merkel and the EU designed to scare the EU into submission and avoid an Article 24 exit.
24 states very clearly the right of free trade zones and bodies like the Eu. It states very clearly, how preliminary free trade zone can be created, because of meaningful negotiations. It states, too, that the parties have to show to the WTO, that they are in real negotiations and outline how they will proceed and come to a conclusion with in 10 years.
Would just work out on any UK / EU or UK / US deal or any deals people do want, as WTO members, UK, EU, and everyone else, equal, which means, you can't just block our trade for leaving, that would be discrimination against UK. Until we reach a deal, it has to be friction-less, until we reach any new deal, for 10 years.
But only if both parties can proof that they are willing to engages in a meaningfull negotiation. I will remind you of previous posts were 24 was a mandatory affair of having to trade with each other. Nope the Eu can not block trade from the UK, it can only raise standard WTO tariffs, as the UK can do. Remember it takes always 2 to tango. First the Uk has to leave, step one, than both parties have to agree on the assumption of a trade agreement, than they can file with the WTO for article 24 and the WTO has to agree on it. In the end it needs 3 to tango. But I am pleased to have you enlightened.
UK will be, but it will also be with US as well for example. Really, why not Australian beef? Jacob Reese-Mogg champions WTO trade. EU will of course want a deal, unless, it's punishing UK over Brexit, which, of course, would be a violation. Because we all know UK is willing to talk. EU, might have to view UK as a non EU member and stop its Four Freedoms no cherry picking dreams perhaps. But, the EU to not want trade wouldn't be treating the UK market or consumer as a rightful WTO member, but of as country that left the EU; thus any act to treat Britain like it's in the EU still and block trade is a violation.
You seem to forget, the UK's been able to trade since before joining the EEC in 1973. Just saying, Article 24/No deal for UK doesn't mean grounded aeroplanes or anything like that.
