No-deal Brexit

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    @The Scotsman, so then you're saying that anyone in a majority Brexit Party could be PM?
     
  2. The Scotsman

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    NO...they'd first have to be an MP....:D:hiding:
     
  3. The Rhetoric of Life

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    If Brexit Party run for seats in Westminister and win a majority.

    May I remind you that Nigel Farage is an MEP head of The Brexit Party, who're only 6 weeks old, and so haven't had the opportunity to run for seats in Parliament.

    He can be PM in the future if he runs for a seat, wins that seat and becomes an MP in the House of Commons and his party wins a majority.
     
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  4. Montegriffo

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    What people are missing is that the Brexit party only won 31% of the vote.
    If you add up the Remain parties v the Leave parties you get back to a 50/50 split.
    A low turnout European election for MEPs who may never take their seats is no indication of what will happen in a general election.
    Farage's victory is just a protest vote.
    If he stands in a general election Farage will just take votes from the Tories and we'll get a Labour win or a hung Parliament and a Lib-Lab coalition.
    If he has half a brain Farage will stay out of the way of Boris or whoever replaces May.
    That's a big ''if'' though...
     
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    He's saying it's technically possible but practically impossible.
     
  6. chris155au

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    Why though? Does the party not have enough candidates currently and look likely to not have enough come election campaign?
     
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    A Lib-Lab coalition? How the hell would that work? Surely it would have to go to another election. In hung parliament situations in Australia, the only coalition that gets formed is one between one or more independents and one of the two leading parties. They then form what's called, 'minority government.'
     
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    Couldn't he run as a candidate in the election and then hand over his MEP seat to a colleague?
     
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    It would work just like the last one did in the 70s. If a Lib-Con coalition like Cameron and Clegg's 2010-2015 can work then Lib-Lab can surely work again.
    Any coalition with a majority of MP's can rule.
    May herself has had to rely on a coalition with the DUP after the Tories lost their majority in the 2017 GE.
     
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    It's a single issue party without a manifesto. Most of those who voted for Farage's new party will return to the main parties in the General Election.
    All he will achieve is splitting the vote on the right.
     
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    Yes, I did forget about Cameron and Clegg. It is insane to think about the same situation here.
     
  12. chris155au

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    The ability to be PM assumes that they would be an MP! So in summary, you DO agree that Farage could theoretically become an MP and therefore PM, yes?
     
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  13. The Scotsman

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    all as per post 92
     
  14. chris155au

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    In which you said YES! So AGAIN, when you originally said "no" to my question, "could he run for PM", what you really meant was YES!
     
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    your question was....
    to which the answer is NO. He can't simply hand over his seat in the EU and "run" for PM...go to Post 89....:)
     
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    And of these 31% came over 20% from the former leading Brexit Party - the UKIP - which is now only a meaningless party with the result of 3% only.
    So at least in majority onyl a shift of Brexit voters from UKIP to the new and other Brexit party of Farage ... + about 8-10% from Brexit people who shifted from other parties to them, particularly from the Torries.
     
  17. chris155au

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    Alright, but post 89 said nothing about him not being able to hand over his seat in the EU. :)
     
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