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No deal: Pelosi rejects Trump’s offer to legalize 'Dreamers' for wall money

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  1. FreedomSeeker

    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    "How DARE Trump try to slow down the steady flow of future Democrat voters streaming across the border daily!", an enraged lady named "Nancy" was overheard saying.

    /Kidding!!
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Pelosi isn’t refusing to hear votes

    That’s mitch, I think you are confused.
     
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    The republican majority house rejected the $5.7B deal. Bipartisan Senate deal was passed. But the house wouldn't bring up that bill.
     
    dairyair, Jan 19, 2019
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    At this point it’s clear the Dems are not interested in governing. We are in a state of national emergency...time for trump to act
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    By passsing bills that a single member of the 535 member congress is stalling...

    That’s some mental gymnastics you are undertaking
     
    cd8ed, Jan 19, 2019
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    If we did do what Trump proposed on his website(to essentially tax the money Mexican residents was sending out to Mexico), the cry of "racist" would be heard from a mile away probably. But at this point, it doesn't matter. Trump should take advantage of his unpopularity to take the most radical legal measures.
     
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  7. FreedomSeeker

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    Nancy hates Dreamers.
     
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    I gotta say, uh, AFGHANISTAN (a war zone) is not my idea of a "vacation"!
     
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  9. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    01.19.19
    McConnell: The President Stepped Up with Bold Plan to Re-Open Government, Fund Border Security
    ‘Everyone has made their point—now it’s time to make a law. I intend to move to this legislation this week. With bipartisan cooperation, the Senate can send a bill to the House quickly so that they can take action as well. The situation for furloughed employees isn’t getting any brighter and the crisis at the border isn’t improved by show votes. But the President’s plan is a path toward addressing both issues quickly.’

    https://www.republicanleader.senate...an-to-re-open-government-fund-border-security
     
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    I thought it was the 5.7 B deal that passed in the Republican majority house.
     
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    You should read a certain book - "The Art of the Deal", I think it's called, since you don't appear to understand Negotiating 101.
     
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    As McConnell said, the art of compromise is that not everyone is happy. This is a bill that Trump endorses, and would open up the government. If Pelosi refuses, she now owns the shutdown.
     
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  13. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, he's not wrong...

    “Our immigration system should be the envy of the world, not a symbol of disunity and disfunction.” -President Donald J. Trump
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    Yes, just ask Israel.
     
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    Nancy is turning her back on te dreamers...all because she is bitter trump grounded her Brussels vacation
     
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    If Democrats don't take Trump up on this offer or at least use it as a starting point in negotiations they will lose the Hispanic vote for decades
    But their unhinged Trump hate will have them cut off their nose to spite their face
    Pelosi would rather give up the Hispanic vote then give Trump a win
     
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  17. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and now we know what the offer is that she turned down.

    Seriously, she was grounded this week, then the buzzfeed crap, now this.

    Its a BAD week for dems, no matter how they spin things.
     
    US Conservative, Jan 19, 2019
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    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Correct. And polling of both Hispanics and independents suggest that is whats happening.
     
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    Yes, and now we know just how generous and bipartisan the deal was she turned down.
     
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    Until Lefty wants to bargain in honest good faith, there will be a shutdown.
     
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    Whereas I do not believe that President Trump always delivers an excellent speech, I do believe that this does rise to the level of excellence.

    The Democrats are now left with just two possibilities: Either accept the president's proposal (which Nancy Pelosi has, in fact, speedily rejected), or reveal themselves as pure obstructionists.

    The latter will no doubt play well with their own base. But I doubt that it will do so well with independents.
     
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    Trump is being the reasonable one he is the one making offers trying to come to a an agreement find some middle ground
     
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    Horrible week for the left...which is a good week for America.
     
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    I think this may have been a miscalculation on Pelosi's part. Three year protection puts us well past 2020, and if the Dems can't beat Trump in 2020, they should just roll it up as a party.

    On the other hand, I doubt anyone's mind will really change, and Pelosi may be going for a "maximum pain" strategy: the economy will eventually weaken from this, and Trump will be forced to give more concessions. A lot of people would have to suffer for that to happen, so I oppose it, even if it would mean a better deal.
     
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    controlling one half of one third of government isn't a mandate for crap
     
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