No deal: Pelosi rejects Trump’s offer to legalize 'Dreamers' for wall money

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  1. GraspingforPeace

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    Wait, so nothing has been done for decades... except for 700 miles of walls and fencing done just over a decade ago?
     
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    Well that may depend a on court decision or two. So far, things have not gone well for Trump on this issue with the courts. The wall funding is not a loan to be paid back in three years. The structures at the border are not designed to be temporary retractible curtains that we can retract in three years. Its interesting that what we want gets a three year sundown we are supposed to negociate away later ( probably during another hostage taking situation), but what you want is permanently in place so you don't have to renegotiate in three years. That is supposed to be a winning deal? I think not.
     
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    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump on Wednesday previewed his outline for an immigration bill that he will promote next week, saying he wants $25 billion to build a border wall and is open to granting citizenship to illegal immigrants who were brought to the United States as children.https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...wall-offers-dreamer-citizenship-idUSKBN1FD2UU
     
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    You’re right what do all those engineers from all over the country know and the investigators who are dumb enough to think criminals come in other ways. And all those studies that show illegal immigration is declining every year or a part of a mass conspiracy
     
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    If people are concerned about the shutdown they should flood the Congress Critters with angry letters telling them to do their damn job and fund the government. The current shutdown is because that worthless Paul Ryan didn't pass a complete budget last year when he was Speaker.
     
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    It's not anyone's job to love them.
     
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    Pelosi is not only a liberal but a female liberal, so hating someone who is addressing difficult issues in the interest of the country is what they do best? Liberals just hope difficult issues will go away.
     
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    He didn't offer to legalize the dreamers. He offered a 3 year delay and the orange turd asked for the same crap he has been asking for all along. He is a pathetic negotiator as usual.
     
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    National security does not interest liberals as much as it does conservatives
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    At the risk of repeating myself, I loathe liberals.
     
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    I got that the first time

    I dont like them either
     
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    Trump has not been specific about where he wants fencing, or a wall or what ever he decides to call it next week, that would be a valid debate, one we can have while the government is open

    dems are against a wall of china across the entire border, we will give trump some wall in exchange for say DACA citizenship

    dems would be just as against a wall of china on our Northern border
     
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    Yeah, because people could possibly breach the lock on my front door or enter through a window I shouldn't lock my door at night now? *smh* Do you people think about what you post before you actually do it?
     
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    How the hell would you know?
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the fact that I do not know and your not posting a link to prove me wrong..... kinda proves my point ;)
     
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    I'm guessing on the border?? What does it matter specifically where it goes? Let the engineers worry about that. It needs to be the whole thing though, except where there are natural barriers
     
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    What about Obama Care, they voted against the will of the people and lost 69 seats in 2010. A Zogby International poll showed that 57 percent of Americans did not like either of the competing health care bills produced by the Senate and House, but the Democrat passed it anyway. Was that the will of the people? If people really don't want the wall then it's good bye in 2020 for the Republicans, so why are you against it?
     
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    lol, at least your admitting now that Trump has no plan.... Trump should get with the engineers first, let them come up with a plan, then present it to congress

    shutting down the government without a plan is stupid - you do not give the money then come up with a plan, you come up with a plan then ask for the money it will cost to implement the plan, Congress can then review the plan and decide to fund it or not

    why did Trump not do this when he had control of all three branches of government?

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    Trump 2013

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    Yeah, Obama, in hind sight, should have made a spectacle out of it. But then again it turned out the people really do like it.
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    We shall see. About the wall I mean, not the lotion:blowkiss:
     
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    He also knows that as Pelosi has said no to a deal involving DACA he has a better chance of getting it overturned. I can't say repealed because it was never a law in the first place.
     
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    They are not citizens, they are still illegal immigrants. Yes they were bought here by their parents, who I assume have returned to their home countries and abandoned their children, but if the parents stayed DACA does not protect them, so the family can be kept together as they are all deported together.
    The last thing the liberals want is for families to be separated.
     
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    That's racial profiling.
    We need to start deporting all those in the US illegally regardless of ethnic origin.
     
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    :applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:
     

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