No Drug Tests For Food Stamp Recipients, Feds Tell Georgia

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  1. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If people rely on others financially to sustain their existence, there is no logical excuse for use if drugs.

    Can anybody debate this ?
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So since these people are dependent on others, most likely by their own life decisions, that makes taking drugs acceptable when getting public assistance.

    I would be willing to bet you stand to benefit from such an illogical position, because I doubt a tax payer who is drug free would agree.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Most conservatives I knew do not support corporate welfare.

    Nice try at partisan deflection though, try to stay on topic.
     
  4. danielpalos

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    sure. you may not be taking rational addiction theory into account.

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    It isn't illogical to provide for the general welfare through recourse to social safety nets. So what if a tax payer is drug free. Is that same taxpayer abomination of hypocrisy free?
     
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    I don't know where you met your alleged conservatives. Corporate welfare has even paid multimillion dollar bonuses. Why does the right only habitually complain about the least wealthy under our form of Capitalism?
     
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    Do you stand to benefit?
     
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    Still avoiding the topic.

    Taking drugs while on welfare is ok because of corporate welfare?

    A prime example of a failed relativism fallacy.
     
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    It isn't any worse when the general government of the Union, is the largest purchaser of drugs in the world.
     
  9. jcarlilesiu

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    What are you even taking about?

    Do you stand to benefit from this ruling?
     
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    Nothing but diversion? I merely stated a fact. You are welcome to Google it, yourself.
     
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    Why shouldn't food stamp and other forms of welfare receipiets be tested for drug use. We don't want to give them food stamps or money or subsidies to spend if they are drug addicts, Instead, if they test positive, the money should be used to pay for them to enter drug treatment and counseling. IMO, since drug testing is allowed by employers to test their employees, it is only fair that recipients of welfare be tested before giving them access to welfare paid for with tax dollars. Right?

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    Then why is it legal for employers to test their employees?
     
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    Employment is usually at-will. Applying for social welfare benefits implies means testing and is usually done as a "last resort".

    You bring up a good point. Why is it that requiring for-cause criteria does not involve for-cause employment in any at-will employment State? Requiring a drug test be passed in order to gain employment is no longer at-will, but for-cause employment.
     
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    If someone is giving you charity, they have the right to stop giving it on any grounds they choose... Morality 101.
     
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    Public "charity" must promote the general welfare.
     
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    I am glad that the Federal Government interceded.
     

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