No One Knows Better

Discussion in 'Education' started by unkotare, Mar 22, 2022.

  1. unkotare

    unkotare Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2019
    Messages:
    2,368
    Likes Received:
    516
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Despite what many people seem to think (and not a few here have said), native Spanish speakers in the US do not "refuse" or are disinterested in learning English. No one knows the crucial importance of learning English than non-native English speakers in the US.
     
  2. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    52,286
    Likes Received:
    48,655
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    "better than"..... Sorry, I couldn't resist the opportunity. :) you left that door wide open man!
     
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2022
  3. unkotare

    unkotare Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2019
    Messages:
    2,368
    Likes Received:
    516
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Opportunity for what?
     
  4. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    52,286
    Likes Received:
    48,655
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Come on man, you made a thread about speaking English and you made a typo! The omission of a pretty important word in fact.

    You know how they say English is one of the hardest languages to learn? For a non-english speaker trying to read a sentence the omission of an important word can change the entire context.
     
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2022
  5. unkotare

    unkotare Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2019
    Messages:
    2,368
    Likes Received:
    516
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No, I did not.
     
  6. unkotare

    unkotare Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2019
    Messages:
    2,368
    Likes Received:
    516
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    That is not true.
     
  7. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    52,286
    Likes Received:
    48,655
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It should have read...." No one knows the crucial importance of learning English BETTER than non-native English speakers in the US.

    You did not add the word "better".

    Which language do you think is the most difficult to learn?
     
  8. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    52,286
    Likes Received:
    48,655
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Also, commas save lives.

    Let's eat grandma.

    Versus...

    Let's eat, Grandma.

    See the difference?
     
    Grau likes this.
  9. unkotare

    unkotare Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2019
    Messages:
    2,368
    Likes Received:
    516
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    [/QUOTE]

    There isn't one.
     
  10. unkotare

    unkotare Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2019
    Messages:
    2,368
    Likes Received:
    516
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Now I see what you're talking about. I thought you were referring to the thread title. You are correct. It was not a typo, it was an error of omission.
     
    FatBack likes this.
  11. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    51,271
    Likes Received:
    22,659
    Trophy Points:
    113
    There isn't one.[/QUOTE]

    Sure there is. For English Speakers, Chinese, Korean, and Arabic are some of the hardest languages.
     
  12. unkotare

    unkotare Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2019
    Messages:
    2,368
    Likes Received:
    516
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Sure there is. For English Speakers, Chinese, Korean, and Arabic are some of the hardest languages.[/QUOTE]

    See how you started with "For English Speakers [sic]"?

    There is no "hardest language" to learn. Too many variables.
     
  13. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    52,286
    Likes Received:
    48,655
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Six of one half a dozen of the other right?
     
  14. unkotare

    unkotare Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2019
    Messages:
    2,368
    Likes Received:
    516
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No, I don't like it when people try to fall back on the excuse "typo" when in fact it is an ERROR. I'll own up to it.
     
  15. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    52,286
    Likes Received:
    48,655
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It ain't no big deal man I'm just ribbing you.

    But like I said if you're not familiar with the language the omission of a key word can change the context of an entire sentence.

    I do the talk text thing with my phone, I guess it's my Southern accent but if I don't watch it, this phone will say the damnedest things.
     
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2022
    unkotare likes this.
  16. unkotare

    unkotare Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2019
    Messages:
    2,368
    Likes Received:
    516
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    As it turns out, that particular ERROR of mine would not prevent the non-native English speakers of most languages from understanding the meaning.
     
  17. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    51,271
    Likes Received:
    22,659
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well no, there are not "too many variables."

    Being a native English speaker is one variable. That's the only one you need.

    https://www.mustgo.com/worldlanguages/language-difficulty/
     
  18. unkotare

    unkotare Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2019
    Messages:
    2,368
    Likes Received:
    516
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You should see some of the filthy nonsense talk-to-text does with my Boston accent!
     
    FatBack likes this.
  19. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    52,286
    Likes Received:
    48,655
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I took the liberty of a erasing most of your post like you do to mine.... See how it can change the context?
     
  20. unkotare

    unkotare Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2019
    Messages:
    2,368
    Likes Received:
    516
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    There really are. A person's L1 is just one of many.
     
  21. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    52,286
    Likes Received:
    48,655
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Sometimes I swear I'm talking just as clearly as you ever possibly could and the damn thing gets it wrong.

    I can only imagine someone whose second language is English trying to use talk to text
     
  22. unkotare

    unkotare Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2019
    Messages:
    2,368
    Likes Received:
    516
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    :alcoholic:
     
    FatBack likes this.
  23. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    51,271
    Likes Received:
    22,659
    Trophy Points:
    113

    I just posted a link to a website that shows you are wrong. Instead you decided to delete it out of your reply. If you are going to be one of those guys who edits replies to try to make their arguments look marginally better, than there is no point in discussing things with you.
     
  24. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    52,286
    Likes Received:
    48,655
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    What are you doing right now reading my mind? Lol. I'm actually sitting here on the banks of the Peace River drinking beer.

    The liver is evil and must be punished... I declare war upon that evil organ!
     
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2022
    unkotare likes this.
  25. unkotare

    unkotare Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2019
    Messages:
    2,368
    Likes Received:
    516
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Phones today can do the talk-to-text thing in a number of languages. I hate phones.
     

Share This Page