No Planers - Suicide To 9/11 Discussion

Discussion in '9/11' started by Adam Fitzgerald, Jan 1, 2019.

  1. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    The failure to legitimately investigate 9/11, lack of accountability and extreme over classification is well known. But there's not one thing you cited that significantly questions or disagrees with the official 9/11 narrative. You are still parroting and defending the official story. What makes it even more hypocritical is that you acknowledge all these failures yet you don't seem to be able to grasp that any one of these failures has the potential to throw a major monkey wrench into the entire official story.
     
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    And those planes were not AA11 and UA175.
     
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    Yeah. That's pretty clear.

    Was the 9/11 Attack the 2001 Version of "Operation Northwoods"?
     
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    It seems you have a very hard time acknowledging that the 9/11 account by the Commission isnt just about 4 planes being hijacked and crashing. Its much more than this. Their history and data they collected are erroneous and incomplete. You are stuck on the planes, im far far ahead.
     
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    Where do you get this from? I read their phony story, didn't you? I also started an entire thread on their scam which I gave you the link to and you claimed you were going to read it. I guess you decided not to bother.

    And FOS, but you would know I knew that if you read through the thread.

    From your posts, it seems it's you who's stuck on the planes and alleged hijackings, you keep repeating their story as if it were fact. But to be sure Chapter I is called "WE HAVE SOME PLANES" and you keep parroting it. This is the crux of the OCT in case you're not aware:



    Yeah somewhere in lalaland. The OCT is not just about what the 9/11 Commission claim it is, there is far more to the fairy tale than their story. The NIST story comprises a huge portion of the OCT, you've never mentioned it, as if that doesn't exist either.

    Again, nothing you posted significantly questions or contradicts the OCT, just your claim of being far far ahead, whatever that's supposed to mean.
     
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    I posted the basics, you objected to it. Your objections were based on your opinions and not on contradictory evidence. Hijackings took place, thats a fact. The planes crashed into WTC, Pentagon and Shanksville, thats a fact. When i said im far ahead, i mean from the historical standpoint of 9/11....pre 9/11.
     
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    I asked YOU if YOU have any significant questions or contradictions with respect to the OCT, don't project and try to make it about me. I question the entire OCT from start to finish because of contradictory, unsupported and missing evidence, tons of it, but that has nothing to do with YOUR position.

    Thanks for confirming exactly what I said once again. You parrot the OCT and defend it as if it's fact and that is a FACT. So please quit saying you're a 9/11 "skeptic", that is a dishonest and deceptive attempt to categorize your position on the official 9/11 narrative.
     
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    All I know for certain is that the corporate and political elite of the world gained far too much as a result of 9/11 to not have had a hand in bringing it about. And I am certain it will be proven, just not so certain that it will be proven soon enough to matter.
     
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    It's already been proven by the fact that they did absolutely nothing to prevent 9/11 or stop it once it was underway despite knowing full well it was going to take place well ahead of time. They also did everything in their power to insure that the entire air defense system in the northeastern corridor of the US was left impotent by staging 12 war games on 9/11. That's IF that was their only crime, complicity to terrorism and mass murder.

    9/11 Family Member Patty Casazza: Government Knew Exact Date and Exact Targets



    http://911truth.org/911-family-member-patty-casazza-government-knew-exact-date-and-exact-targets/

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/11/cia-directors-documentary-911-bush-213353

    Then they did everything they possibly could to cover up their crime following 9/11 and committed war crimes and other human rights atrocities under pretext of 9/11 for $$$profit$$$ and power.
     
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    You cannot prove a single claim you've made in that post. Neither can the government. You offer deception here, nothing more.

    The government's own commission noted 60+ times that "we found no evidence" to support various elements of the narrative.
     
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    you're falling back on this again??? ... how many times have I shown here how that one phrase has been taken out of context by troofers? ... please don't try to spin your bullshit on me ... what various elements are absent of evidence? ...
     
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    Read it yourself if you're curious, which is highly unlikely.

    Those 60+ statements combined with the statements of others that the commission was set up to fail make it clear that this commission's purpose was virtually the same as the purpose of the Warren Commission--to protect the guilty parties while giving the gullible masses something to sink their teeth into.
     
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    doing it again I see ... you are purposely trying to mislead readers on these catch phrases without providing the context of what was actually said ... sack up and show us the videos or transcripts regarding the context ... quit being a weasel ...
     
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    Yeah these phrases are very catchy, misleading and out of context:

    26. The 9/11 Commission co-chairs admitted they were set up to fail, starved of funds, denied access to the truth, misled by senior officials in the Pentagon and the FAA, did not examine key evidence, claimed the report was incomplete and flawed and that many questions remain unanswered.

    So you should be able to provide the actual context of all the above, right Shiner? C'mon quit being a weasel, sack up and provide the actual context of what was actually said.
     
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    I appreciate the note about context, and yes, it's important.

    That said, I speak English and so do you, and I've seen Hamilton and Kean make those statements, and I know what "we were set up to fail" means. I'm guessing you do too.

    Mislead readers? I'm merely pointing out the historical record.

    Get your old Air Force manual out Shine, and tell us WTF "we were set up to fail" means in your world. Please, provide the context for what they said it and when.
     
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    sure ... sounds like they are talking about space beams not being investigated ... how many times do I have to tell you tools that they are talking about intelligence failures? ...
     
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    26. The 9/11 Commission co-chairs admitted they were set up to fail, starved of funds, denied access to the truth, misled by senior officials in the Pentagon and the FAA, did not examine key evidence, claimed the report was incomplete and flawed and that many questions remain unanswered.

    Talk about tools, when are you going to provide the context for the above that differs from the actual context Shiner instead of phony apologist diversions?
     
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