Non binary bologna utterly destroyed while snow flake sputters and struggles to make point

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    You may have seen this, piers Morgan argues with a "non binary" advocate.

    He holds this guy's feet to the fire. All the advocate does is inside that he's right.

    Worth the watch if you haven't seen it.

    I agree mostly with the lady named India. And definitely Morgan.

    The advocate seems utterly mad.



    Your thoughts?
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well they weren’t going to invite anyone one who could have presented a valid argument against Morgan on his own show. He’s doing his job of deliberately spinning up controversy to attract attention to the show and his own brand. It doesn’t really have anything to do with LGBT individuals, they’re just the tool he is using today.
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Such a person probably doesn't exist. A hundred genders? That's absurd.
    It doesn't have anything to do with anybody except these lunatics that believe they're are hundreds of genders.

    It's really just an argument against madness. Like bringing a flat Earth type on.
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What is absurd exactly? First you need to identify someone saying anything about “a hundred genders” and listen to what they’re actually saying (rather than presuming what they’re saying). I totally recognise that there are loads of idiots, trolls, self-identifying spokespeople and so-called journalists out there saying all sorts of stupid things for various reasons but that doesn’t make any discussion on a similar topic areas automatically stupid.

    Again though, this was never about a discussion of the actual topic, it was about attracting attention to Morgan and his TV show.
     
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    This nonsense about hundreds of genders
    I have and it's nonsense.
    I don't think the discussion is stupid. It's just that you can't show me that there's hundreds of genders. Nobody can.
    I do not care, I'm discussing the topic they brought up if you want to discuss the TV show start a thread and discuss the TV show. This isn't about that. I used the TV show to introduce the topic. Your personality differences or hang ups with a host on it have nothing to do with what he said.
     
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    You missed my point. I was asking you identify them and their actual arguments here. After all, if I mentioned "this nonsense about criminalising transgenders", you'd expect me to back it up.

    For what it's worth, I don't think there are "hundreds of genders" but I also don't think that's what the guy in the video was trying to say.

    You were discussing how it was debated on the TV show and I explained why I think it was debated in that manner. I'm more than happy to move on from it for that very reason though. :cool:
     
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    Ghee kids wanting to be different than their elders that is like soo new, not....
     
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    that's what the video is for.
    watch the video.
    well that's what he actually said. I'm not going to go into it and try and read his mind.

    I'm taking what he said as his argument.
    no I was not discussing how it was debated on the TV show you cannot tell me what I was doing I know better about what I'm thinking and doing then you do.

    I'm discussing the topic they were discussing.


    You want to rant and rave about your personality issues with Piers Morgan.


    I don't care about that.
     
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    Making up fantasies and trying to get the world to accept them is not the way to go about it.
     
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    Moonglow Well-Known Member

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    I know our generation used drugs to drop out of society.
     
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    That's something every generation does.

    How do you think I am?
     
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    You is because of yer parents.
     
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    Again true of every generation
     
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    I didn't hear the proponent use that phrase though, only the people arguing against him. If I missed it you'll have to point out a timestamp in the video.

    Anyway, "hundreds of genders" isn't an argument, it's just a statement. What he seemed to be saying (though the video seems to cut in after the start of the discussion) is that people shouldn't be abusive and offensive towards individuals because of their gender identity, regardless of how you might feel about the entire concept. I got the impression he was responding to something Piers Morgan had said previously but that wasn't directly mentioned or shown.

    In general, the video doesn't frame a clear topic of discussion (it's called "Should Piers Morgan be fired" but doesn't really cover that) so I think you'd need to add more if you want to use it as a basis for something more meaningful.
     
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  15. Polydectes

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    all arguments are just statements.
    that's why I posted it in the op and put words that you need to read and understand in it.

    If you want to argue with the video make your own ******n thread.

    I
     
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    Arguments are sets of statements, like "If we do X, Y will happen because of Z" or "Someone said X but I think Y because of Z".

    If you don't want to discuss or debate anything though, we can just led your thread die out pointlessly like so may before it.
     
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    You know the world is ****ing nuts when you're agreeing with Piers Morgan.
     
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    not necessarily.
    I just don't care about your personality issues with the people in the video. You don't want to debate the subject.
     
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    I tried to but you offered nothing to actually debate.

    I don't think anyone here is saying there are "hundreds of genders" but even if they do say that, so what? What I do think they're saying is that people shouldn't be abused, insulted or attacked simply because they identify in a manner you don't agree with. Those are two elements that could be debated but feel free to raise the aspects you wanted to discuss instead.
     
  20. Polydectes

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    Wrong again. You can identify as whatever you want. I don't really care.
     
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    Morgan is a tool.
     
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