Non-binary gender identities

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    This whole topic exists because sex linked features do NOT fall into only two discrete patterns.

    I'm ignoring your "birth defect" comment as hate speech.
     
  2. Polydectes

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    Um... there is really only one feature that sex is defined upon. And it isn't a linked feature is the defining one. That is your genitalia. That's how we know which dog will have puppies, which horses will have colts and which cattle will have calfs.

    This really is as simple as that.

    If you are born hermaphroditic or intersexed that absolutely is a birth defect. Calling facts you can't argue against "hate speech" is just dodging the discussion.
     
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    This isn't new. Gender identity is an issue that likely spans the entirety of man's existence upon this planet.
     
  4. Polydectes

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    A non binary gender is most certainly new.
     
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    Progressives merely wish-think there were an unlimited number of genders. Science and nature ignore this wish.

    "hate speech" :D

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    So does paranoid schizophrenia. Historical legs doesn't make something worthy of broad public acknowledgement. That Progressives find it hip and good for virtue signalling, doesn't make it any more an issue (to Joe Public) than paranoid schizophrenia.
     
  6. Polydectes

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    Gender identity is not really relevant in any sense. It's based on how a person feels. Feelings can be irrational and can change at a moments notice.

    So discussing gender identities is like discussing religious identities or cultural identities. They dint matter in the least.
     
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    And our laws should reflect that, neither limiting nor favoring a particular identity.



     
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    Not only that, people can lie about their feelings and no one can prove them wrong. If an old man feels like he wants full access to the girls' room, he just says he identifies with them, then BAM, free ticket in.
     
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    And the old lesbian doesn't even have to lieĀ—the free ticket is handed out by assumption. It's time to put doors on the stalls.



     
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    My unit works with this private contractor that has the best bathrooms. The men's room is this giant room with 6 smaller bathrooms with full sized doors. Haven't seen the women's room because I don't have women's parts
     
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    Sounds like a good solution. The next step is removing the pictograph on the door to that giant anteroom. Reserving one block of toilets for people of a particular color or plumbing creates problems we don't need to have. Shame we have to relearn this lesson every 40 or so years.



     
  12. Polydectes

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    I agree, our laws should reflect sex, not identity.
     
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    It was the only thing relevant under Obamas bathroom policies. Under those policies you can use the womens room one week because you feel like a woman, and alternate to the mens room next week because you are feeling like a man. 70-80% of children who express feelings of being transgendered, spontaneously lost those feelings.
     
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    I don't know how people quantify feelings.
     
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    I don't recall there ever being a problem with segregated bathrooms until cities and Obama mandating who gets to use which bathroom.

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    I don't believe they do, so not sure of your point.
     
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    Saying someone has feelings doesn't necessarily indicate that they are transgender, gay, or anything except that they experienced those feelings. I think it's rash to jump to any conclusions that they are particularly trans or whatever based on some feelings.

    That was the only point I was making.
     
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    You can't. No one can. It's a profound absurdity to start legislating based on such a 'foundation'.
     
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