Norfolk VA decides to not assume rape victims are lying!

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  1. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Them "Liberals" are taking over EVERYWHERE and handcuffing our police from really investigating the victims of sex crimes!

    Not allowing police to be giving rape victims first degree interrogations to try to break their stories when raped by an intruder?
    Training of officers in supporting victims for rape trauma and post traumatic stress?

    What will these women want next? A cup of tea?

    Rape victims will be treated so well in Norfolk VA, women may well start wearing short skirts see-through blouses to invite being raped! :roll:



    http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/08/13/2457991/virginia-law-enforcement-rape/


    How often does do the police "close" a case by intimidating a victim into backing off?

    In Baltimore in 2009, HALF of the "unfounded" reports were shown to be incorrectly tossed out by police.

    http://hamptonroads.com/2013/08/victims-ordeal-prompts-sex-assault-policy-shift-norfolk
    Isn't that how it was SUPPOSED TO BE all this time????
     
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    Folks, you'll never be able to find a more chauvinistic and misogynistic post on these forums.
    There is so much wrong with this post that it defies comprehension.

    Rape is a very serious crime. No woman wants to be raped, and I can almost guarantee you if you asked half the women you know if they'd want to be raped, they'd at least slap the taste out of your mouth, at worst, they'd castrate you and feed you your testicles.

    Victims of sex crimes have gone through probably the worst experience in their entire lives. Being raped is the worst intrusion of the person imaginable besides death. That is why it was one of the last non-homicide crimes that was ruled to not have a death sentence as an appropriate sentence. Many larger jurisdictions have specialized units designed to deal solely with sex crimes because of the nature of the victims.

    Even if the story is difficult to believe, it is still best to assume the victim is telling the truth until concrete evidence is present to say that the victim was not raped. Believing a victim's story is not the same as believing the perpetrator is guilty until proven innocent.
     
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    This thread is an insult to all women and should be deleted. Women who wear suggestive clothing are not "inviting" men to rape them.
     
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    Excellent post....

    Every girl/woman who says she was raped should be given the benefit of a doubt that she's telling the truth with a very thorough investigation. The majority are telling the truth...... then there's those who are lying thru their teeth........

    There's the Duke/LaCrosse case. If someone hadn't started investigating Nifong, those 3 guys would have been railroaded into prison on false rape charges......

    About a yr or so ago, a kid right out of HS was sent to prison for a rape he didn't commit. It took 5 yrs for the girl to admit she had lied and the last I heard, she got by w/it - no charges filed against her for lying.......

    There's hundreds of cases out there where a man was sent to prison for yrs for a rape he didn't commit.....
     
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    I think the original post was meant in an ironic way.
     
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    OP has to be sarcastic. No one could be this callous. Why would (should) the police start with the assumption that someone who is reporting a crime is lying? The case quoted shows just how (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up that method is. I cannot believe that the first thing an officer would do is tell a rape victim that their story is (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up and they will be charged with a felony if they are found to be lying. Well then again I remember when I was almost arrested for reporting that my barracks room had been robbed. My roommate and I quickly grabbed our First Sergeant who explained to, whatever the (*)(*)(*)(*) the Army CSI guys are called, that we were in the field over 60 miles away and could not possibly have robbed our own barracks. They get some real retards in law enforcement.
     
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    Uh..yeah. I think this flew over a few of your heads.

    As for the original news story, holy crap I can't even fathom that the original policy was to assume she is lying.
     
  8. fiddlerdave

    fiddlerdave Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    See the rolling eyes icon?

    That indicates sarcasm.

    And it is quite telling you have nothing to say about the police policy of assuming rape victims are lying, only a comment on your clueless perception of my comment.
     
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    I don't get those icons on the Tapatalk forum app, and others may also not pay attention to a relatively small and easy to miss icon.
     
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    IMO: Ths reply should be deleted and is an insult to every person who has the desired capacity of reading comprehension. FiddlerDave was merely showing you the hoops women must go thru when reporting a rape to police, and the intimidation she must endure by the police who should be on her side not the alleged rapist's.

    It's just a 2013 rendition of the "Good Ole' Boy" syndrome the police are subject to while on duty when they stop a car and rape a woman while on duty, then are placed on paid leave while the case goes thru the court system.

    You can readily see that he is immediately judged the innocent person, while the poor girl is guilty of, at the very least, asking to be raped by wearing suggestive clothing.

    The police definitely have a conflict of interest going and they should not give any suggestion that the girl is lying by applying intimidation to lessen any charge against the male. Many serial rapists are let free to continue their terrible pursuits that will live forever in their victims' minds, (and feelings toward all men), merely on what a woman was wearing at the time of the rape. It is really sad and denigrating to the woman.

    Do you really think a female should have to buy her clothing based on the fact that she may be raped in the future?

    Great job, FiddlerDave!!
     

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