Norway welcomes US Marines amid Russian tensions

Keeps the military-industrial complex in the green and keeps MOD EDIT>>>FLAME BAIT<<< Americans focused on external enemies

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/18/politics/marines-norway-russia/index.html

Washington (CNN)US Marines are coming to Norway -- a move that could send a chill down Russian President Vladimir Putin's spine.

The move, which was sought by the Americans and announced Monday by Norway, comes as tensions between the US and Russia are increasing amid the humanitarian disaster in Syria and US assertions of Moscow's involvement in cyber hacks on American political organizations and individuals.

Beginning in January, a limited rotational force of approximately 330 Marines will be located in Vaernes, Norway, according to a statement to CNN from the Norwegian Defense Ministry.
"The US initiative to augment their training and exercises in Norway by locating a Marine Corps Rotational Force in Norway is highly welcome and will have positive implications for our already strong bilateral relationship," Norwegian Defense Minister Ine Eriksen Søreide said in a statement.

"We enjoy a very close relationship with the Norwegian Armed Forces and a limited rotational presence in Norway would certainly enhance this relationship and our ability to operate together," Maj. Gen. Niel E. Nelson, commander of US Marine Corps Forces Europe and Africa, said in a statement last week to CNN while the request was being considered by Norway.


The statement noted that a Marine presence in Norway -- which shares a 122-mile border with Russia -- "will increase NATO's ability to rapidly aggregate and employ forces in northern Europe."

Tensions about Russia's posture in Europe have increased following the Russian annexation of Crimea in 2014, following Putin's intervention in eastern Ukraine.
The US and its NATO allies have since increased their presence, as well as assistance to Poland and the countries on the Baltic Sea.
Earlier this year, members of the 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade trained in Norway alongside troops from other NATO countries in Exercise Cold Response.

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Realistically, there's no way Russia is at all interested in attacking Norway or any other part of Europe. The idea is ludicrous. This is the US fomenting a new cold war, pure and simple. It's easy - just vilify and blame Russia constantly, and use every opportunity to "respond" to their "aggression" by moving more of our military nearer to their borders.

 

Yep.......if we got to blow up the world in a war with Russia to get Hillary elected and promote ISIS in Syria.............well dangit...........that's just the way it will have to be!

 

IS... US virtually ignored them because they were essentially the enemy of our chosen enemy - Assad.

Does this situation help Hill? It could if many Americans buy into the Big Bad Putler lie. I've seen some people here do that, but then I think they were already biased to begin with. I don't think it's about the election as much as the American global empire, something that easily transcends even national politics.

 

Obama needs a legacy. He lost Iraq, he didn't look at the war in Afghanistan being his war so no win there.

Obama lost in Libya and Al Qaeda isn't being decimated and isn't on the run so no win there.

Why not start a new war and lets see if Hillary can win Obama's Cold War ll.

 

It's the new world order of the neo cons in Washington and it goes against everything The Russian Federation stands for. They had enough of the mass murders, the brain washing, the imposed atheism, the controlled press and the lack of individual freedom and rights in the former Soviet Union, and they want no part of it. They will fight Washington and its Trotsky ideologues to the death...

Washington fears Russia since it gives hope and courage to other nations that they too can fight Washington's impositions. If there's any anger towards Russia by other nations, it's that they are not giving them enough support against Washington ...especially the people that are suffering the most such as in Ukraine and Syria.

 

Our robber barons depend upon perpetual war for perpetual peace to pile up their wealth even greater. Gen. Butler one of the most decorated soldiers in our history tried to tell us that war is a racket, done on behalf of elites, robber barons. He even stopped a coup by these robber barons against FDR, by the likes of people like JP Morgan, Prescott Bush, George Herbert Walker and around 30 others.

So these kind of men and the gov't they now own, will always need a great and evil enemy. And if we do not have one, we will manufacture one, which is what we are doing to Russia who is only trying to look after its own national defense and economic security as all nations do. We blame Russia for what is going on in Ukraine, as we act like our own CIA was not involved in taking out their elected leader who would not bend over and take it from the western robber barons. But we put all of the blame on Russia and brain dead americans lap it up like a dog lapping up (*)(*)(*)(*).

We have to turn Russia into another hitler who will conquer western Europe which is absurd, but you need an aware intellect to see the absurdity and there is a deficit in such intellects in America. It is embarrassing to know we have americans who appear to be worst than the local village idiot. At least there is an excuse for the village idiot, as he was born with a low IQ. But no excuse for the willing idiots who have a sufficient IQ.

 

It really is annoying and disgusting how our government continues to try and make an enemy out of modern Russia. I know without a doubt that the Russian people and the Russian government are not hostile to Europe or even the US and have no interest whatsoever in war with any such entities, yet our government continues to tell lies, militarily threaten and economically attack Russia and treat them like the USSR.

As awful as a President Trump would be, I have to say, a sane foreign policy towards Russia and China in particular would make it worth electing him, as would seeing 0bamacare repealed. I had a dream the other night that he had won the election. I remember feeling hope for our country's economy. I would have hope for our foreign relations also, I know. Hillary scares me, because she's going to continue this awful game of lies and belligerence. I don't want to live in that kind of world, where the US government is purposely creating conflict with fictitious enemies and trying to cow us all through fear of a foreign nation, and do the same to our allies in Europe and the Commonwealth.

 

Good move. We should also boost our forces in Estonia/Latvia/Lithuania. Gotta keep Russia from invading the EU.

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I know without a doubt that Russia will invade the EU if we don't move heavy forces up to Russia's border to prevent it.

 

By painting Russia as the enemy, Hillary "666" Clinton is bringing nuclear Armageddon a step closer, is she nuts?
Hey America, if you don't want to see Russki ICBM's coming at you and your kids and grandkids in future years, vote for peacemaker Don, he's got no beef with Russia..

 

I wonder if Russia and the USA wants the rest of the world to think we are in a cold war, so that way all the terrorists sit back cause they think we fighting each other

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Without the iron curtain Russia is quite on the inferior side and very vulnerable in terms of cold war,
for it does not have the protection required. The barrier that protects it from such an specter war is the sovereignty of the nations bordering Russia. We need an orderly world for unity and peace and war should only be made within the commercial field through economics not with guns and bullets on the battlefield.

Cold war rhetoric is all about threat and the veracity and expanse of the threat, and it's quite a quagmire for Russia to deal with it in many fronts. A nuclear war will never become an option for if the aim is for existence and survival then nothing should be done to ultimately terminate or compromise the goal.

 

Ideological warfare with the presupposition that U.S. moves are in "response" to Russian aggression. Objective reporting would say:

According to Noam Chomsky's Propaganda Model:

In his "well confirmed though not proven" analysis of the media, Chomsky concludes:

We don't need internal documents from CNN or The New York Times to confirm this.

 

Great post!

 

Another classic!

 

Yes, Russia's border is very long and it must have crossed Putins mind that if he starts anything in the West, the Chinese will seize their chance to sneak in the back door..

 

Yes it's possible.

Seven years later, in March 1969, a contingent of People&#8217;s Liberation Army (PLA) soldiers raided a Soviet border outpost on Zhenbao Island, killing dozens and injuring scores. The incident brought Russia and China to the brink of war, a conflict that might have led to the use of nuclear weapons. But after two weeks of clashes, the conflict trailed off.
What if the brief 1969 conflict between China and the Soviet Union had escalated?
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/how-the-soviet-union-china-almost-started-world-war-iii-15152

and China did have nuclear capabilities since 1964.

 

Yes; Hillary is perfectly willing to make more foreign enemies for us if it helps her get elected.

 

A wet dream completely detached from the reality. The biggest mistake of Obama's foreign policy, I mean Brzezinski's, is organising and sponsoring the coup in Ukraine. China and Russia have never been closer. As a matter of fact Russians started selling the Chinese advanced weapons. The way I see it, the biggest loser is Europe. The winner is China.

Chinese, Russian Navies to Hold 8 Days of Naval Exercises in the South China Sea

Beijing and Moscow will hold the first-ever South China Sea iteration of their Joint Sea exercises.
http://thediplomat.com/2016/09/chin...ys-of-naval-exercises-in-the-south-china-sea/

 

For now it's just "the enemy of my enemy is my friend",
but once sovereignty is being violated then that will never apply.
Oil prices now is still low and somehow affected Russia's revenue,
and the exercise in the South China Sea is nothing but the control of South East China by either USA-Japan,
or China, that will also help Putin divide the attention of the US and it's allies From Ukraine and Syria issues.

 

OP

Jeez, having observed the amount of armaments and munitions (including RPG rockets) all of which have been in daily around-the-clock use in the middle east for the past two decades, isn't the military-industrial complex making enough to stay in the green already? 90% of the land surface of the entire region must be covered in steel by now.

 

One example. Syria. Fabricated against Russia Video - "dead" scratch their noses and lay down comfortably.

[video=youtube;bxaE1cXA1Hc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxaE1cXA1Hc[/video]

 

I am personally filled with astonishment and disgust at what I have seen going on in America, particularly with the Left (shockingly enough) when it comes to their bellicose attitude on Russia and the beating of the war drums that seems to happen on an hourly basis in the media. The Cold War is over and ought to never be revived for the sake of the human race. What kind of topsy turvy America are we living in when it is the Left howling and fear mongering about the dangers of Russia and the Right is actually clamoring for peace and cooperation?

It doesn't serve the interests of the people, of any people to destroy relations with Russia and increase the tensions between our two nations. Many complain that Russia is trying to influence the election, well what do you think the US has been trying to do to the elections of every nation partial to Russia over the US for decades? What do you think was going on when McCain visited Ukraine before the current crisis and tried to influence the country to move away from relations with Russia? The United States government is filled with hypocrites who use every form of manipulation to get what they want but cry foul when similar things are done to them. I don't know about you but I'm not willing to see the world burn over a war with Russia to satisfy the dreams and egos of the corrupt elites that run this country.

 

Please, enlighten me. Why does Russia want to invade the EU?

 

Beats me. As long as we put enough troops on Russia's border to deter them from invading in the first place, it doesn't really matter why they wanted to invade.