Note to Trump: The Mueller Probe Costs Roughly $0.00 – Not $40 Million

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  1. PeppermintTwist

    PeppermintTwist Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not only has it paid for itself, it is starting to turn a profit. lol
     
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    Man, oh man! Will mythical wonders never cease!
     
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    If we're satisfied with just catching tax cheats and no russian collusion, let's close down the IRS's criminal investigation units and let Mulehead catch them all. Save even more millions. Ha ha ha ha

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    Whaf is "mythical" about Mueller not costing money, unlike all the dozens of manufactured Hillary probes and fake hearings the Republicans have tried to find dirt?

    Real crime is the point of the Mueller effort.
     
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    Props.

    But, I'd point out that we're simply seeing one more of the ways that Russia can use to attack America = and to do so directly aimed at our democracy.

    Mueller's defense of America could be 10x what is claimed, and would still be not only cheap, but would continue to be absolutely required.

    We spend billions on our military. Allowing Russia to side step our military and attack us directly here at home is NOT an option.
     
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    What is mythical about Mueller not costing us money is that Mueller is costing us money.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    For all of his supposed business acumen (which seemed to be more due to Cohn than himself), Trump never has managed to figure out the concept of net costs.
     
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    The fines he has levied and collected have more than paid for the investigation....thus, he hasn't cost the taxpayers any money.
     
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    HAHHAHAA you folks are fools....guess what Manafort has other creditors that are first in line...they'll get the first crack, then of course he'll file for bankrupty and boom...you get nothing...let me know when he pays one dime.
     
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    Show me any evidence he's collected one dime.
     
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    Do you really think Cohen has more business acumen than Trump? I doubt if he even has more legal acumen than Trump.

    I don't understand the concept of "net costs." What are they????
     
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    I thought he was supposted to investigate russian involvement in the elections. Apparently that goal didn't last long.
     
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    Could you post audited fines received and costs incurred by Mueller?
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    What's the net cost of the investigation? Don't forget to subtract any tax money
    Cohn, not Cohen. Cohn. Net costs are your ultimate costs once you reconcile revenues. If it costs you (gross cost) $2 in gas to go collect a $50 check, you have not net costs. You have a net gain of $48.
     
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    You dont understand how asset FORFEITURE works

    Quick hint: The government gets theirs first !
     
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    This isn't a current event as the "story", more like Fake News, was published back in November.

    What, nothing on Russia, today?? lol
     
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    Sorry about the Cohn thing.
     
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    Using the left wing wall analogy, it has been paid for by the taxpayers and it doesn't matter if money comes from elsewhere.
     
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    Well, there is that totally debunked fake newz story about PDJT telling cohn to lie under oath. The left will recycle newz like this garbage to get the simple minded off of dwelling on their latest faux pas.
     
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    That's completely incorrect. Mueller's mandate enables him to investigate any crimes that he comes in contact with during his investigation. So he's authorized to investigate any crimes he comes across and he's come across many, many crimes...hence all the indictments.

    Reading...its a nice skill to have. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...nt-Robert-Mueller-Special-Counsel-Russia.html
     
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    I am completely correct; you are completely incorrect. I'll tell you what is a nice skill to have as opposed to reading the NY Times; it's reading the law -- especially if one is espousing something about the law. (And by the way, Mueller's authorization/appointment letter is not law.)

    From 28 US Code 600:
    (a)Original jurisdiction. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall be established by the Attorney General. The Special Counsel will be provided with a specific factual statement of the matter to be investigated. The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall also include the authority to investigate and prosecute federal crimes committed in the course of, and with intent to interfere with, the Special Counsel's investigation, such as perjury, obstruction of justice, destruction of evidence, and intimidation of witnesses; and to conduct appeals arising out of the matter being investigated and/or prosecuted. [emphasis mine]

    The law goes on to state that if the Special Counsel uncovers other crimes, he must refer that explicitly to the Attorney General, who may add the new crime to his authorization or assign it elsewhere. At this point many holler that Mueller reviewed the Manafort case with Rosenstein. The answer to that is twofold: one the law does not sat "review;" it says refer and get [specific] authorization or not get authorization. Two, the law says refer to the Attorney General, not the Deputy AG or the acting AG. Rosenstein is in charge only for things related to the Russians, the Trump campaign, and the elections, combined -- what Sessions recused himself from. He is not the acting AG for any other matter.
     
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    Wrong again, it isn't just a post from the NY times...its a copy of the actual mandate issued and signed by the acting AG. He WROTE AND ALLOWED the specific factual statement about what was allowed to be investigated.

    Again try to read...this is from YOUR post The jurisdiction of a Special Counsel shall be established by the Attorney General. Sessions was NOT just recused from the Russia "part" of the investigation...he was recused from the entire investigation...and Rod Rosenstein therefore got to establish WHAT was investigated..not Sessions.

    And just because YOU think that the indictments that Mueller has currently under his belt aren't connected to the prime reason of the mandate isn't important. Much of the indictment information is redacted for a reason. Everything very well may be connected and all the perjury charges might also be connected...we don't yet know. We already know that Mueller ALSO has referred many, many non-related matters to the NY AG...which he's also authorized to do. Just because you don't like it because it exposes the criminals that you support and voted is immaterial.

    Not that I blame anyone of your ilk for being ashamed of what they are and what they support. Know this..its going to get much, much worse for you and your kind.

    I find it funny how you're trying sooooo hard to parse the breadth of the mandate. I guess its hard for your kind to just admit that you got conned by a moron. It must be hard every time you watch another indictment and another idiot turning on the fat racist infesting the White House.

    So, so, so funny. I'm really enjoying watching the right wing getting panicky.



     
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