Nothing can stop Invasion of Islam.

Discussion in 'Western Europe' started by Ostap Bender, May 31, 2012.

  1. hedayat_yafte

    hedayat_yafte New Member

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    HI
    I'm so so sorry for you to think like that ... hey you even think that all of the new Islam members chose their way by themselves not with force or some thing like that!!!
    I'm a Muslim .... and Hey don't scare of me ... I'm Human like you ... look I have rights like every one in the world ...
    We don't force anyone any time to become Muslim ...

    If you scare from Islam not Muslims? ... so I think you don't know any thing about that ... I'm so so sorry for your kind who think their Ideology is the best and do not research about the others ...

    what do you think about Islam? ... It tell us to live like a Human not like an animal ... have freedom to chose and pray our creator for ourselves ... this religion has no false in its rules ...

    and at last your text is so offensive. but your picture is more.
    I think you don't even know their means.
     
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  2. MegadethFan

    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    I name only seven reasons why it will be happened.

    Actually any ideology can be stopped in a democracy. I do not see what is ideological about Islam generally, nor how its particularly strong. Most Western Muslims have exhibited the same trends to secularization as any other religious group, ie drops in religious ceremony attendance, loss of traditional customs etc etc. Oliver Roy's work is particularly in interesting on this subject within the context of French sociology.

    LOL How's that?

    'skyrocheting'? Actually, whilst they are high, this is only in Third World countries, like those of North Africa. More generally speaking the populations of Muslim minorities in Western countries is stabilizing quite quickly and doesn't look set to clime the peaks propagandists like Mark Stein assert. There was a very comprehensive article on the in the Economist a while ago.

    What "Cowardice and dumbness" is that?

    The "death of traditional values" is only ever a good thing. As for morality, it seems to have become enhanced over time not the opposite, though it has a long way to go.

    What's wrong with that?

    LOL What "Union" is that exactly?

    wtf are you talking about?

    Would it be possible for you to just flee now and simultaneously rid yourself of the fear of seeing the world become Islamified as well as rid us of your inane conspiracies?


    Speaking of which, why hasn't this been moved to the conspiracy section?
     
  3. MegadethFan

    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    How about you live by your own advice eh? Here's a Jesus teaching for ya - JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED! (Matthew 7:1)
     
  4. Viv

    Viv Banned by Request

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    What does your signature mean?
     
  5. MegadethFan

    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    Seems like Islam is invading the writer of the OP's mind more than anything else.
     
  6. Anders Hoveland

    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    I believe the idealistic progressive parties are seriously underestimating the future consequences of allowing a totalitarian religious ideology to take hold. Rather ironic that the progressives are embracing all these poorer immigrants (to get easy votes), when the extreme Islam these immigrants carry with them threatens the very values which progressives uphold. Once the extreme muslims have gained enough numbers (through continued immigration and high fertility rates), they will impose there religious doctrine, however ridiculous and oppressive it seems to most of us (abuse of women, beheadings for apostates of Islam, laws criminalizing anything deemed offensive to Islam). They have already attempted to do this in several cities throughout Europe and the USA. People need to take a good look at how things are in Pakistan.

    Of course, many muslims do not support these extreme cultural and religious practices, but that does not stop mobs of muslim religious extremists from rioting in cities with high muslim populations.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/religion/251235-enraged-muslims.html#post1061306620
     
  7. clarisse150

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    The bigest majority of the Muslims who I know aren't extremists and are tolerants whith the Catholics etc...
    I don't think that's a good thing to said that all the Muslims are similar! They are like everybady, there's some bad people who are Muslims, and some good who are.
     
  8. Ostap Bender

    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    Muslims have skyrocketing birth rates and will achieve majority in Europe already in few decades. Can you please to mention a country where Muslim majority do not persecute or do not kill non-Muslims?I doubt you can it.
     
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    Is there more of a problem being killed by Muslims or bored to death by irrational Christian fundamentalists?

    All religion is crap.

    With a bit of luck, before we tear this world apart over the issue of religion, people will decide to live in the world which is and not dictate that others think as they do, ..........or we will all be dead.

    Right this minute, I'm so sick of all the ordure produced and farted onto this forum by people who claim to be better than me with no reason for that bar they think they are, that I am getting to relish the idea of getting away from all the irrational self-serving ********s who claim to be religious but don't know the meaning of the word that death looks to be a better option than living!
     
  10. clarisse150

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    Right, I can't.
    But I just said that we can't say that they are all similar...
    Where they are in minority, everything is ok. Where I live, this is the case, and in there's not a lot of problems.
    I'm OK with you that it will be an hard situation when they will be in majority in Europe, in the part of France where this is the case, there's really a lot of problems, and nobody make anything for sellte them, so, they vote FN... But I think that where they are in minority, they haven't a bad behavior.
     
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    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    With their skyrocketing birth-rates they will became majority within the next forty-fifty years.

    Our fate:

    Read here:

    http://www.letusreason.org/islam12.htm
     
  12. MarquesDeCaceres

    MarquesDeCaceres New Member

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    Well, to solve the problems that could may be between different communities we must know some things. First of all, thank God muslim radicals are minority, and secondly we must note that we are speaking about two radical different block systems-ways of life, maybe as they said here, they want to make law with islam inspiration, but what the hell is the law in the western countries but the evolution of what we think that is bad or good with the bible in front?

    We must know this, if we don't want to fall in the same error that we crytize, because this and other questions must be solved as we are entering in a globalized world and we can't think that our way of seing the world is the best just cause it is.

    Anyway, me as a catholic I have a certain way of see the world, but I really recommend to all of you everything to read about Mr. Robert Spaemann, specially the book 'Basic Moral Concepts'.
     
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    EXACTLY! The scariest thing is that a lot of the people saying all Muslims want sharia are the same people who actually want to impose religious law on everyone - so basically do the work for Muslims themselves, just with Christianity! You are completely right. A society must be open to all ideas on how the law should operate. The falsity of traditional sharia (which most Muslims dont much like anyway) can easily be proven alongside anything else that is discussed. As you rightly note, the world is globalized now, so these confrontations are inevitable - we simple need to ensure they are open, rational and respectful.
     
  14. MarquesDeCaceres

    MarquesDeCaceres New Member

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    The thing is that almost every law and every moral has a religious basis, even if we are against it, that's the thing. All big political ideas have religious origin, even communism!

    But of course, we are the ones who realize about this to solve the confrontatios that we were speaking about.
     
  15. clarisse150

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    Yes, that's the problem, I think...
    Now, there isn't a lot of problems in the bigest part of Europe, but I think that Europe will be intolerable for the Whrite Christians when we will be in minority
    I don't know for the other countries of Europe, but in France, speak about that is considered as a racist thing and reserved to the National Front... So, the thing will never change, the governement will continue the massive immigration.
    For France, with Sarkozy, it wasen't badly manage, but with Hollande the new president I think it will be a disaster, he want legalize all the foreingers who live in France and one of his friend socialist, Martine Aubry have propose a "French flag" with the moon and the star of muslims... To, Hollande forbidden pork in the Elysée. Socialist will make the mess... It will be better if they do as Sarkozy, say that we must respect the Christian origin of the country. Sarkozy was right, I think that he will miss to every France very soon. Socialist can't manage the country correctly, that's obvious; they will creat big tentions, they are all so stupid.

    But for the country who haven't a stupid governement as us, I think that the inhabitants of origin will stay in majority for a long time.
    Well, I think and I hope that European will react if they see that their country in a mess...
     
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    I don't believe that Euros are turning islamophobic , specially a person from the nation that ended muslim ambitions in battle of Tours and a person from the nation that destroyed the Emirate of Granada. Man up and try to think you are Euros , it is business as always if a group gets too annoying heads will roll but are we sure that tiny religious minorities are our problem ?

    I surely hope that "white christians" will soon be a minority , what is the percentage of atheists in France 40% ?
     
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    Small minds have always lashed out at what they don't understand.
     
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    Impossible to know; a lot of people make baptize their chlid even if they are athesists or agnostic...
     
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    Totally true, me and all my family are catholic and we rarelly go to church.
     
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    I think you are being idealistic in thinking you can make any headroom at all with these ridiculous attempts to incite racial and religious hatred. People are not stupid, they can see exactly what your motivation is and what you are hoping to cause.
     
  21. Oddquine

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    With the best will in the world, Viv....people can be that stupid. I said in another post Small minds have always lashed out at what they don't understand.....and this form proves it.
     
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    The majority disprove it. There is a minority of intellectually challenged people who need help, who populate the BNP and equivalent "organisations" and are regressive enough to think a return to mindless exclusion, segregation and war would improve the world and those may be open to manipulation by dangerous, condescending characters who wish to incite racial hatred. A small proportion of misguided people do, after all, allow themselves to be indoctrinated into cults and so on.

    However, fortunately the vast majority are not gullible, not interested and are repelled by racist hate.

    Therefore your man is wasting his energy and the more often that is pointed out to him, the less likely he is to continue wasting everyone's time by spouting it.
     
  23. Oddquine

    Oddquine Well-Known Member

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    Problem is the minority are the most vociferous......which is why we have, in the UK, so many special interest groups dictating Government policy, often to the detriment of the majority, and why in the USA, they have AIPAC and big business dictating theirs. The majority don't say much generally, they just get on with life, and hope by keeping their heads under the parapet, nobody is going to disturb their lives much..which would equate with your "not interested" because why would anyone not interested post on political forums?

    They are not gullible...they just don't tend to make their presence felt to the same extent as the minority with a specific agenda. The assumption is, and I do believe it, that they are repelled by racist hate, but because on forums like this they are not the kind of people who tend to post as much those who are passionate about their beliefs do, their voices aren't heard....maybe because they know they are right and don't feel they have to say it all over the internet....so the racist and irrational set the standard..and on this forum they do most definitely.

    Id like to believe that Therefore your man is wasting his energy and the more often that is pointed out to him, the less likely he is to continue wasting everyone's time by spouting it...but I'm afraid I don't.....so I can see "your man" becoming the 49th person I ignore as a waste of space on this forum.
     
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    Muslim immigrants are just reproducing at much faster rates, and will be the majority in Europe within 50 years:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HTSwUig2-0&feature=endscreen&NR=1

    Will this alien culture respect Western conceptions of individual liberties and religious freedom?


    [video=youtube;aYDfACr-y4s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYDfACr-y4s&feature=related[/video]

    [video=youtube;h6xdYDbxZnI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=h6xdYDbxZnI&NR=1[/video]


    Usually, as soon as the muslims reach 10 to 15 percent of a country or region's population, they start trying to take over.
     
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    "Usually"? That means it has happened before. Please give examples of this bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     

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