NRA Commentary Admits The Odds Of Needing A Gun To Defend Yourself Are Infinitesimal

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  1. Korben

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    They should be, I propose the 69th amendment;

    A well motivated male citizenry being necessary to the prosperity of a free state, the right of attractive women to wear short skirts shall not be infringed.
     
  2. Korben

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    You've seen a gun float through the air and shoot someone all on it's own? If so that sure would explain a lot.
     
  3. Korben

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    If so they do a horrible job, 85% of people shot with handguns survive and most of the remaining 15% are suicides.
     
  4. Korben

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    The only problem I see here is your grammar.
     
  5. TOG 6

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    Nope.
    It is mindless, needless restriction son the rights of the law abiding.
    As well as some banning.
    The President, in fact, openly seeks to ban rifles, pistols and shotguns.

    Criminals are banned from guns.
    How does making it harder for the law abiding to get guns make it harder for criminals to get guns?

    Heh.
    Can you cite a single gun crime that would have been prevented by licensing and registration?
    Before you answer, remember that criminals cannot be forced to get a gun license or register their guns.

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    But you -are- if you are among "the people".
     
  6. TOG 6

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    That's because you have not addressed what I said.
    You may have replied, but in no way did so meaningfully.

    :lol:
    I wish I had a dime every time someone brought this up.

    You do not need a license to buy, own, or keep a car; you do not need a license to operate a car on private property.
    You do not need to register a car to buy it, own it, keep it or operate a car on private property.
    You do not need to insure a car to buy it, own it keep it or operate it on private property.

    I await your meaningful response.
     
  7. TOG 6

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    Easy peasy.

    Licensing and registration are preconditions laid upon the right to arms not inherent to same; as such they amount to the state requiring you to prove you are not breaking the law before you can exercise your right. That is a form if prior restraint which, except in specific, exceptional circumstances, violates the constitution.

    Further, there is no sound argument for the necessity of the sate to know who owns what guns; absent that necessity, there is no argument that licensing and registration rise to the level of a compelling state interest.

    There you go.
     
  8. AboveAlpha

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    That's a state issue.

    Better background checks is the answer.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    "A well regulated militia being necessary, The right to..."

    If you want to join a well regulated militia you can bear all the arms you can carry...
     
  10. TOG 6

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    You haven't heard the news? It's only like 7 years old now.
    The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.
     
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    Considering how incredibly armed the U.S. Population is....a Militia would be overkill.

    AboveAlpha
     
  12. Korben

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    Wow, if your going to commit in a forum section on gun control you may want to get the second amendment right. It's not hard believe it or not you can find it with a google search.
     
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    Citizens ARE the Militia. Go here by quotes on this by Founding Fathers:

    http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/rkba/ff_militia.htm
     
  14. Professor Peabody

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    You should read the news more.
     
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    Licensing and registration of firearms makes neat little lists to use later to confiscate all guns.
    Ask any Canadian or Aussie. It's what happened there and in Nazi Germany.
    The propagandists want you to ignore this FACT.
     
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    Fine except guns were not confiscated from any but the criminals

    See if you take guns away you CAN keep them out of the hands of criminals - or at least make it much much harder for criminals to get guns
     
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    You buy a car, you fill out the paperwork for ownership, Period. That goes on State DMV records. So spare us all your silly dodges and smoke blowing. Do the same for all gun purchases.
     
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    All you've done is just blow smoke.....you're purchasing a potential lethal weapon...license &
    registration does NOT interfere with ownership, it makes you a basic decent user of said instrument and a better track in case of theft or crime or accident, like a car. No Constitutional violation as you are not prevented from getting that gun providing you're not a criminal or demonstrate a complete inability to handle it safely.

    You keep going in circles, but you can't escape basic facts and logic. There you go.
     
  19. Korben

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    Motor vehicle laws are overbearing as well.
     
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    Guys, quit feeding the trolls. :roll:
     
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    Good to see you understand you have no meaningful response to my post.

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    Again: You clearly understand you have no meaningful response.

    Just as I expected.
     
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    Your claim is factually lacking on all fronts. You have no evidence that the government ordered confiscation of firearms did not affect their legal owners.
     
  23. theferret

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    :sleeping:
     
  24. theferret

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    translation: toggles is all tapped out and can't muster a decent response besides this lame clap-trap, as the the chronology of the posts reveals. I'm done with him, and leave him to his predictable dodges, repetitions, false accusations, distortions and plain insipid stubbornness.
     
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    shouldn't be mediabiasmatters vice mediamatters
     

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