The registration of firearms has done nothing to benefit the good of society in any nation in which it has been attempted. What good can possibly come from such? How does knowing who legally possesses firearms do anything to benefit society at large?
Isn't there? You are right in that in Australia gun registration did not prevent theft but it DID make it bloody difficult sight more difficult. At the moment in America you committ burglary in the right house you have enough guns for you, your gang and the next five gangs. In Australia you would have to steal the whole gun safe - and then crack the safe and then you would NOT be able to get your hands on rapid fire high power weapons
Then why not display this by backing your posts with scientific research?? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2704353/
uh I did we have proven that registration has no value in any crime fighting schemes and is designed to harass honest gun owners. we have also proven that gun banning groups and anti gun politicians all support gun registration. that alone is undeniable proof that registration should be opposed by gun owners.
Well the usual moronic arguement is that the bad guys won't register their guns which certainly implies that universal registration would be a positive for reducing gun violence. But I would be interested if you can find a country with functional universal gun registration that has more gun violence than the US.
It does because part of registration is the fact no Aussie can accumulate the equivalent of an armoury like you can in America. Registration also dictates HOW you will store your guns
Well actually all you have done is make those statements but you have never actually provided any evidence. You are confusing your blather with proof.
Indeed there is not. Pray tell exactly how? How did the nation of Australia, mandating that all legally owned firearms being registered with the government, do anything to make it physically more difficult for the firearms to be stolen from their rightful owners? What does the number of firearms present have to do with registration? Is there an upper limit of the number of firearms that someone in the nation of Australia is legally allowed to own? Such relates to the manner of the actual storage of firearms, not the registration of firearms. The two are not the same thing, nor are they interchangeable with one another.
It is not a moronic argument, but rather the ruling of the united state supreme court itself. They have stated in no unsimple terms, that there are no circumstances under which a prohibited individual, such as a convicted felon, can be punished for failing to register a firearm that they cannot legally possess. The punishment for possession of an unregistered firearm could be the death penalty, and they would still not be subject to it, because they are constitutionally prohibited from the registration requirement. It does not. There is nothing about the act of registering a firearm that does anything to affect firearm-related violence. Pray tell exactly what amounts to "functional universal registration" in this particular matter? Where did the qualifier of "functional" get introduced into the equation, and what exactly does such actually amount to regarding this particular discussion?
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2530362H If America went the same route as Australia (which I doubt it ever will unless someone takes a pot shot at Trump) then how many lives would be saved??
Because WHEN you register a firearm you also have to prove you will comply with the laws surrounding ownership which includes mandated safes
Let us compare that with here. There was a terrorist plot to kill police in Sydney. One person WAS shot and they opened fire on the shooter. THEN they invesitgated and every person who even TOUCHED that gun was charged under the firearms act. Same happens with any incident involving a gun - the perpetrator gets charged but so does anyone involved Result - only hardened crims use guns
Are random, warrantless, home inspections by law enforcement allowed under the laws of the nation of Australia to insure that such requirements are actually being complied with?
If, only America gave up the silly notion of freedom, eh? 10’s of thousands of Americans fought for and gave their lives in the name of freedom and the rights protected by the constitution. If not for them, your first language would be Japanese.
the death toll would be enormous, many gun owners won't allow their weapons to be seized and that will result in a civil war. the gun banners advocates would be the first targets of the rebellion and since most of them are unarmed, they would probably suffer massive casualties
this is a hoot coming from a guy who kept blathering that registration has never led to confiscation, proof was given to you and you ignored it
None of which changes the fact that the united state supreme court has stated that there is not a single instance in which a prohibited individual can be prosecuted and punished for failing to register a firearm that they cannot legally possess. Nothing is going to change that basic fact, no matter how much is argued to the contrary. Beyond such, is the nation of Australia not experiencing its own crisis with illegal firearms being smuggled into the country, or otherwise manufactured in illegal factories? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-...r-four-corners-gun-trafficking-report/8531992
Nope. Not one example of registration leading to confiscation in the US has been found. Your inability to accept that fact is clear evidence of your inability to participate in an intellectually honest discussion.
doesn't matter. those who want registration often want confiscation. No one with a brain would give gun banners their desired tool. and you are not truthful. we have proven what happened in NYC
Yes that decision says they cannot be prosecuted for failing to register a gun because of the self incrimination protection of the Constitution. Does not say they cannot be persecuted for owning the weapon. Does not invalidate my plan. Significant penalties for owning a gun one is not allowed to possess plus a hugh reward for turning in the violator will still work.
