Nudity in Public should not be illegal.

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  1. Sonofodin

    Sonofodin New Member

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    Making people wear clothes is a violation of their rights and shouldn't be enforced any longer.

    Nudity is not bad in any way, it hurts no one to be naked in public. Obscenity laws that make public nudity illegal are a violation of the first amendment (If you support the constitution) and of basic human rights.
     
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    I agree, but if you go to a public place you should wear something for the place where you sit.

    In Spain for example nudity is not illegal. You can go nude to beach, cities or whatever. Although there is a lot of legal controversy, because some municipalities ban it, although and if you go to lawsuit you will win, is a problem.

    In my town for example, we have a beach where many times nudists and bathsuit people shared the beach without problems. Ah, and well, it is typical the topless. Many women practice topless.
     
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    This society just isn't ready for that.

    On the practical side, clothing helps prevent the spread of disease.
     
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    I don't discount the violence. People see Sonofodin naked, start laughing, he goes berserk, tragedy strikes.
     
  5. kilgram

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    I defend the nudism, as you can see. But I wouldn't go nude, I think.

    And also there are places that is impossible to go nude... if you want to live xD
     
  6. Sonofodin

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    Okay, so do you agree or disagree with me?

    STOP IT, YOU KNOW I'M SENSITIVE ABOUT MY THINGY! :(
     
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    No, I don't agree with you. Our society isn't ready for that. Heck, they can't even stand the thought of someone being 'gay'.

    I assure you that they/we aren't ready for public nudity. In the future we will be, but that day is not today. So no, I don't think it will be legal. In about 75 years, we may go for allowing it above the waist, and in about 150 years, below the waist may be okay.

    Come on... two GAY guys walking hand-in-hand naked on a sidewalk or on the beach today? No, I don't think so. :)
     
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    The discussion isn't about whether it will happen, it's about whether should happen.

    You're against it? How does public nudity violate someone else's rights?
     
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    Nudity in public will go against the principle of all men being equal;)
     
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    It's not a federal issue.
     
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    So what?

    State or local laws can't violate the constitution either.
     
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    P. Lotor Banned Past Donor

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    What's your case that it violates the first amendment?
     
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    Depends. I imagine that any law of a state can violate a superior law, and federal laws and constitution are superior laws.
     
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    It should NOT happen (yet).

    Not really; but I'm just being practical. You aren't going to see it for at least a generation, and probably not even then.

    It can affect people's sensibilities, and that can readily translate into votes. The only problems I see with it, are the medical problems pointed out before. (Sittin' naked on public places, isn't a good idea.)
     
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    Haha - I see what you did there. ;)
     
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    It's violating the right of the individual to express themselves. Freedom of speech encompasses more than just verbal language.

    The freedom of speech is the freedom to express one's ideas and opinions freely through speech, writing, and other forms of communication but without deliberately causing harm to others' character and/or reputation by false or misleading statements.

    The body can be used to communicate, just as people get tattoos, wear certain clothing, and get piercings to communicate their feelings or express themselves, going naked is also a form of bodily expression.

    That's why it violates the first amendment.
     
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    I think our societies' tolerance for nudity can be judged by the swim suits of our time... Borat thong.
     
  18. Sonofodin

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    So I shouldn't be able to wear the women's clothes if I am male because it might offend someone's sensibilities? How about offensive slogans on my shirt?
     
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    I guess I'm basically in favor of decriminalizing the human body ... but I gotta say, it's pretty low on the list of injustices to cure.
     
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    If the government can enforce a public smoking ban without breaching the First Amendment, it can enforce a public nudity ban.
     
  21. Sonofodin

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    Actually, they claim to do that for health reasons because second hand smoke causes health problems in others.

    Personally I think this is wrong and that the evidence that second hand smoke causes any significant impact on anyone isn't their. But under the pretenses it was banned under, it doesn't violate the first amendment.
     
  22. Johnny-C

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    There is no law against wearing another gender's clothing. The laws against public nudity are something else.

    As for slogans on shirts, that isn't nudity either.
     
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    If you can use "defending public health" as an excuse for banning smoking, you can use it for banning nudity.
     
  24. Johnny-C

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    Hmmm... I don't think you are correct about that.
     
  25. Sonofodin

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    You seemed to have misunderstood my points.

    You said:

    I was pointing out other things that can offend people sensibilities and asking you if you think they should be illegal under than line of logic.
     

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