Oath Keeper Leader - Guilty of Seditious Conspiracy

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Lucky1knows, Nov 29, 2022.

  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2020
    Messages:
    31,246
    Likes Received:
    16,930
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Comment dismissed; no evidence to substantiate your claim was provided.
     
    Hey Now likes this.
  2. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2015
    Messages:
    16,389
    Likes Received:
    12,962
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Lack of you hollering for seditious conspiracy charges against the leader and his followers of Chaz/Chop is the evidence. Lack of you calling out your own on their illegalities is another example.
     
  3. Noone

    Noone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2021
    Messages:
    13,525
    Likes Received:
    7,976
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You don’t know a thing about me. You’re gaslighting, to have a point you can win, calling me emotional.
     
  4. Noone

    Noone Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2021
    Messages:
    13,525
    Likes Received:
    7,976
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No.
     
  5. Overitall

    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2021
    Messages:
    12,181
    Likes Received:
    11,542
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Very well. Enjoy your day.
     
  6. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2015
    Messages:
    16,389
    Likes Received:
    12,962
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Of course that's your answer. Because you can't find a single post of mine that defends Rhodes. We both know that.
     
    Overitall likes this.
  7. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    78,717
    Likes Received:
    19,868
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    As I said, hundreds.
    Some are convicted to aspiring to stop democracy in it's tracks. As this thread highlights.

    MAGA, not for America.
     
  8. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    78,717
    Likes Received:
    19,868
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Do so within the confines of the law, if you don't want to go to jail.
    Was it not obvious?
     
  9. Rampart

    Rampart Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2017
    Messages:
    7,880
    Likes Received:
    7,053
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    it proves (not that there was any doubt.) that this was an insurrection and not just a "tour group." getting stone or bannon to flip on trump would be a stretch, but rudy ...........
     
  10. Rampart

    Rampart Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2017
    Messages:
    7,880
    Likes Received:
    7,053
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    "donors" do not serve on juries or in the military.
     
  11. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2017
    Messages:
    21,297
    Likes Received:
    14,438
    Trophy Points:
    113
  12. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2017
    Messages:
    21,297
    Likes Received:
    14,438
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Why has not one single person been charged with insurrection?
     
  13. Rampart

    Rampart Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2017
    Messages:
    7,880
    Likes Received:
    7,053
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    several hundred oath keepers and proud boys with a few thousand to create a diversion and generally add to the police's problems.

    and damn lucky to live in this tyrannical socialist dictatorship . if this country is as bad as all that there would be no trials.
     
  14. Overitall

    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2021
    Messages:
    12,181
    Likes Received:
    11,542
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    This is where the only argument/answer the left can give is: The prosecutors are incompetent! Fire them all!!!
     
    Wild Bill Kelsoe likes this.
  15. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2015
    Messages:
    16,389
    Likes Received:
    12,962
    Trophy Points:
    113
    :roflol:Yes, two people being convicted of seditious conspiracy is proof that all of what happened on 1/6 was an "insurrection".
     
    Wild Bill Kelsoe likes this.
  16. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2020
    Messages:
    31,246
    Likes Received:
    16,930
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Seditious Conspiracy is always applied to a specific person or group who are aligned for the purpose rebellion against authority and usually applied to a motive of trying to overturn, or stop that authority from executing it's lawful duties, and usually applied to a federal level.. .

    CHAZ/CHOP is amorphous, local, and not motived by an effort to overturn the government, it was motivated by vengeance against the notion of cops shooting unarmed blacks and getting away with it. It is not even logical that they would indict on seditious conspiracy. If anything, one might have thought Timothy McVeigh would have been cited for seditious conspiracy, but, he wasn't, and similar to CHOP, his motive was not to overthrow, but to retaliate for what happened in Waco. Similar to the BLM riots, the authorities killed some people and got away with it, or so goes the McVeigh reasoning. There were indictments in the CHAZ/CHOP fiasco, charges authorities believed they were able to get convictions, and that is name of the game. Your argument appears to rest on the narrow wording of the code, and I understand that, but, given current prosecutorial discretionary methods, they apply it as described above.

    [​IMG]


    IIRC, you've been told this many times, so please knock it off with this particular 'whataboutism'.
     
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2022
  17. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2015
    Messages:
    16,389
    Likes Received:
    12,962
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Per WAPO, 27 people have been charged with conspiracy (13) or seditious conspiracy (14). 2 have been convicted of seditious conspiracy. No others have. 27 is not even close to "several hundred oath keeprs and proud boys". The most common charge, again, per WAPO, was interfering with police. Followed by obstruction of an official proceeding and then trespassing.

    Untitled.jpg

    LINK: Charges and sentences so far in the Jan. 6 Capitol riot - Washington Post
     
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2022
  18. Trixare4kids

    Trixare4kids Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2021
    Messages:
    8,512
    Likes Received:
    11,589
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Trump directed his rally goers to protest peacefully when he said, "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard." Trump started speaking at around noon. He finished speaking around 1:12 PM. The first barriers at the Capitol were already down by then. The Proud Boys left The Ellipse for the Capitol around 11 AM that morning.

    The crowd was estimated to be around 8-9 thousand at the Capitol, though the numbers of people at the Saver America rally were much higher. 955 have been charged.

    Capitol Riot Arrests: Updated List of Who Has Been Charged so Far (insider.com)
     
  19. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2015
    Messages:
    16,389
    Likes Received:
    12,962
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Leaders of Chaz/Chop declared that area an autonomous area not subject to US Laws and was not a part of the US. How is that NOT "rebellion against authority"? How is it NOT "an effort to overturn the government"? And they literally stopped police from enforcing ALL laws. Even when someone was shot they prevented police from entering. And it was in no way "amorphous" as its borders were well established by barricades.

    Make all the excuses you want. The fact that you're making excuses shows the double standard that you are applying.
     
  20. Trixare4kids

    Trixare4kids Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2021
    Messages:
    8,512
    Likes Received:
    11,589
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Why don't you briefly respond to my point, what I actually wrote. I'm not interested in your frivolous hypotheticals as a rebuttal. I see no evidence that he helped to premeditate a violent, political coup.
    IF acting butt hurt over losing an election is a crime, he should be charged.
     
  21. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2017
    Messages:
    21,297
    Likes Received:
    14,438
    Trophy Points:
    113
    A rigged trial is worse than no trial.
     
  22. Trixare4kids

    Trixare4kids Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2021
    Messages:
    8,512
    Likes Received:
    11,589
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Trump did not command anyone to act with violence. He commanded them to act with their voices. Hence, why he said fight like hell by using their voices patriotically and peacefully up at the Capitol.
    For every canvas you paint to show Trump as a violent seditionist, insurrectionist, there is no there, there.
     
    Overitall likes this.
  23. Trixare4kids

    Trixare4kids Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2021
    Messages:
    8,512
    Likes Received:
    11,589
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Don't like him, go ahead and call him sophomoric names, but the point is, you have the choice to not support or vote for him in 2024.. See how easy that is?
     
  24. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2020
    Messages:
    31,246
    Likes Received:
    16,930
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I realize the 'double standard' angle forwards your right wing agenda, but....

    It's still. local. If it were in Wash DC, NYC ('cause it's an international city) in a big way, then it might.

    I'm just guessing at the DOJ's 'prosecutorial discretionary methods'.

    You could query them about it.
     
  25. Rampart

    Rampart Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2017
    Messages:
    7,880
    Likes Received:
    7,053
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    if these democrats would rig a triel for rhodes, trump better watch out!
     

Share This Page