Obama’s silky lie and FBI bias in the Clinton investigation

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  1. MMC

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    Of course there is no intent that is applied to being grossly negligent/extremely careless.
     
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    Actually they did get it from her server.....when they discovered she clicked on a bait link. Along with her aides doing the same thing. After she and her aides were warned.
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hilairous you actually your WAPO OP-ED ,somehow, CANCELS OUT DIRECT TESTIMONY. verifying her LIES:
    ONCE AGAIN: (try reading it) : (There is a VIDEO OF IT AT THE LINK. ) Try again.





    "Secretary Clinton said she never sent or received classified information over her private email. Was that true?" the South Carolina Republican asked at the outset.

    Comey said that statement was false.

    "Secretary Clinton said, 'I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email, there is no classified material.' That was true?" Gowdy asked.

    "There was classified email," Comey replied.

    Gowdy continued: "Secretary Clinton said she used just one device. Was that true?"

    "She used multiple devices during the four years of her term as secretary of state," the FBI director said.

    "Secretary Clinton said all work-related emails were returned to the State Department," Gowdy said.

    "No," Comey replied. "We found thousands that were not returned."

    "Secretary Clinton said neither she nor anyone else deleted work related emails from her personal account. Was that true?" Gowdy asked.

    Comey said that question was "harder" to answer, but that "work-related emails" were discovered in "slack space."

    "Whether they were deleted or a server was changed out, something happened to them. There's no doubt that the work-related emails that were removed electronically from the email system," he said.


    Gowdy had one final question: "Secretary Clinton said her lawyers read every one of the emails and were overly inclusive. Did her lawyers read the email content individually?"

    "No," Comey said.




    http://www.businessinsider.com/trey-gowdy-fbi-director-hillary-clinton-claims-2016-7
     
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    You seem confused. The post of mine you quoted, states that Clinton is not the only government official to use a private server. You said that she was. I proved that claim wrong.

    Your deflection to irrelevant nonsense doesn't change you being wrong, any more than you RANDOM capS loCKs do.
     
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    You need to look at your article again and put the following new knowledge to work when comprehending it.

    Using a non .gov email address through google is not the same as setting up your own standalone email server.

    Up until about 15 years ago when I was last involved, you were allowed to use a personal email account to conduct non classified government communications as long as it met document retention requirements. All departments I communicated with required the official .gov address be copied or at minimum be archived to the .gov system within a period of time.

    What Hillary did was not authorized, against department rules, in violation of Federal Record laws, FOIA, and with the addition of classified records discovered, now faces potential Title 18 violations. What Hillary did was self serving and stupid. She should not be allowed to walk from this.
     
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    And the incompetent trump DOJ still won’t prosecute!!!
     
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    what Hillary did, was the same thing colin powell did, as well as condolisa rice. So, as I said, she is not the only person to have done so. Using private email is no different than using a private server.
     
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    Hillary Clinton said 'my predecessors did the same thing ...
    www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/mar/09/hillary...
    Claim: Regarding her State Department email practices, "my predecessors did the same thing."

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    Mostly False
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    Fact checked by politifact.com



    Email Scandal Spin: No, Hillary, Powell and Rice Didn't ...
    townhall.comtipsheetGuy Benson
    Condi and Colin did it, too!" relies on a thoroughly bogus equivalency. Above all else, neither Rice nor Powell set up and used a recklessly unsecure private emails server on which they conducted all of their official business, against …


    So much for that Bullshit and another one of Hillary's lies.
     
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    No it’s not. Hillary conducted all of her government business on her server. She did not have a .gov address. She did not archive those communications. She did not return them once she left her job. They were hidden from FOIA request. She still transmitted classified information. She allowed sloppy handling of the same. She absolutely screwed up.
     
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    No doubt she screwed up. That is a horrible lack in judgment. But nothing she did was illegal.
     
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    Some things they could have prosecuted before the time limit has run out. Perjury is still on the table, but then the FBI has to conclude that investigation. Which with those in the FBI and DOJ still being BO the peeps holdovers, its looking like they are doing all they can to make sure the time limit runs out on that one too.

    So technically that would not be due to incompetence. When done intentionally by those BO the Peep holdovers.
     
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    Obama and Hillary have stuck it in up to the hilt, now it's like they're starting to twist it a little bit.
     
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    Disclosure I am not trained in law, just a former IT guy.

    Records law and FOIA violation have consequences for violation. My sources told me when I inquired they didn’t believe there was a process defined for non employees prosecution.

    Title 18 violation are criminal I believe. All of her violations are/were unlawful.

    It amazes me how Hillary could be so negligent here and everyone wants to push it under the rug, yet our President has had to deal with conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory and those same people think he’s a criminal. Tons of real tangible evidence against Clinton, none against the President. It defies common sense logic.
     
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    I don't think anyone is trying to push it under the rug. Just put it into perspective. This is not something new, that only she has done. Nor is it illegal, which is why there have been no charges filed.
     
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    Its not really amazing considering that once she got into government that she proceeded to do things wherein she didn't think the rules, procedures and protocols didn't apply to her.

    Of course you were correct when you said no others conduced all official business on an unsecured Private homebrewed server.
     
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    You refuse to believe what I say and that is fine. No need to continue then. I can’t help you understand the difference between a stand-alone server and an email account, nor can I convince you she broke the law I referenced. I know the truth and what should happen, but cannot predict what will happen.

    Carry on.
     
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    Yeah I guess. I just know there are so many steps to guard against this that have been ignored that would increase the number of liable people if they really wanted to prosecute. When this first broke as a news story, with my background I thought for sure she was toast, as she should be. This issue has forever changed my opinion of both the FBI and DOJ. This kind of crap is one of the reasons I got out of it.
     
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    it's not a matter of believing you. It's a matter of her not actually breaking the law, and her not being the only person to have done what she did.

    I think she's an idiot, and grossly irresponsible. That doesn't make what she did a crime.
     
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    There is no intent for being grossly negligent. So she did break the law. Then there is the matter of her Perjury. Which is another matter of breaking the law. She also broke the law when she failed to comply with subpoenas and destroyed evidence while under a subpoena.

    Although, now it is known that a couple her emails was breached by a foreign government. I think it is a crime to give up classified material to another foreign government. Whether indirectly or directly.
     
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    Didn't even read your OWN LINK? It says NOTHING about any other senior official using a PRIVATE SERVER, only PERSONAL EMAIL accounts, on a GOVERNMENT SERVER.

    You seem confused. How embarrassing for you....
     
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    Bullshit. A PRIVATE EMAIL, is NOT A PRIVATE, UNSECURED SERVER.

    Stop LYING about it.
     
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    OH! OH!! THEY'RE ALL REPUBLUCANS !!!

    This silliass **** again, we see....
     
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    BULLSHIT. They used personal email accounts ON THE GOVERNMENT SERVER.

    Stop the LIES about it.
     
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    Bullshit.

    You should read the report for yourself. Ignore the spin that there was no bias found at Obama’s DOJ and FBI.

    It crawls with bias. Deals were cut. Then-Attorney General Loretta Lynch met on the tarmac with Bill Clinton. Hillary Clinton was shielded from a federal grand jury. Witnesses were allowed to sit with her during questioning. Comey had already decided to clear her before the investigation was complete
     
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