Obama acted before pandemic declared

Discussion in 'Coronavirus (COVID-19) News' started by PeppermintTwist, Mar 13, 2020.

PF does not allow misinformation. However, please note that posts could occasionally contain content in violation of our policies prior to our staff intervening. We urge you to seek reliable alternate sources to verify information you read in this forum.

  1. ronv

    ronv Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2018
    Messages:
    20,312
    Likes Received:
    8,774
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    April 27th 2009.

    I sure wish Trump could speak this clearly. The market would still be at 25,000.
     
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2020
    Bowerbird likes this.
  2. StillBlue

    StillBlue Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Messages:
    13,171
    Likes Received:
    14,777
    Trophy Points:
    113
    How can you still be saying that? Every fact checker in the world, I even saw one from Africa, has debunked that bull and a simple search on you tube would have given you the videos.

    On April 27th when there were still only 20 cases world wide Obama had this to say.


    This enabled congress to make an emergency funding available, which they did.
    Then on Sept 1st he had this to say.

    Again keeping the American people informed to prevent panic.

    Then in October he issued the national emergency that allowed for an easing of some rules to expedite the production and distribution of the vaccine and allowing the medical community better tools.

    Obama himself got an H1N1 flu shot after supplies became readily available.
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  3. AmericanNationalist

    AmericanNationalist Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2013
    Messages:
    41,172
    Likes Received:
    20,952
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Just like I plan to do, and urge everyone else to do the same when it becomes available. I mean, I've always been fairly confident in my immune system but it doesn't mean **** if it gets exposed to something it's never been exposed to before.
     
  4. StillBlue

    StillBlue Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Messages:
    13,171
    Likes Received:
    14,777
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Just make sure the elderly and health care workers get theirs first. The roll out when it happens will take some time and those at most risk should get dibs and no discussion.
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  5. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2015
    Messages:
    17,002
    Likes Received:
    9,420
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No, you can't justify it with "it was mostly true".

    He didn't stop travel from the UK. He was allowing good to be shipped (because we all know that virus' cant travel on inanimate objects :eyepopping: )

    So you can explain why both Trump and his team/enablers changed everything AFTER the speech ?
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  6. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2015
    Messages:
    17,002
    Likes Received:
    9,420
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And your partiaisn bias is in full view:

    "He was mostly true"
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  7. ptif219

    ptif219 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2011
    Messages:
    10,299
    Likes Received:
    508
    Trophy Points:
    113
    How many died while Obama was doing these photo ops
     
  8. ptif219

    ptif219 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2011
    Messages:
    10,299
    Likes Received:
    508
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Because circumstances changed. As cases grew in the UK they also were not allowed. Trump can never do good in your biased partisan eyes
     
  9. StillBlue

    StillBlue Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Messages:
    13,171
    Likes Received:
    14,777
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The first one, none, there had only been 20 cases worldwide.
    1000 by the last one.
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  10. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2015
    Messages:
    17,002
    Likes Received:
    9,420
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It was a lie WHEN he said it. Changing the rules after the fact do not change the FACT that it was a lie when he said it.

    "Circumstances changed" because he got caught in a lie. They changed the rules to cover his lies and then you claim them "mostly true". BS, they were LIES when he told them

    Hell 60% of Americans flat out don't trust him to tell the truth when it comes to the pandemic. "you can get a test anywhere"....really ? Hows that been working for him ?
     
    Last edited: Mar 19, 2020
    Bowerbird likes this.
  11. ptif219

    ptif219 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2011
    Messages:
    10,299
    Likes Received:
    508
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Thousands died while Obama did photo ops and appointed a lawyer as the czar to fight it
     
    Last edited: Mar 19, 2020
  12. ptif219

    ptif219 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2011
    Messages:
    10,299
    Likes Received:
    508
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If it was Obama you would say he misspoke. All you are doing is showing your irrational and psychotic hate for trump
     
  13. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2018
    Messages:
    33,519
    Likes Received:
    17,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Doubtful.....1) the Swine Flu came out of Mexico, not China....China has a much larger impact on the economy 2) the Swine Flu wasn't a new virus 3) Mexico is not China, Mexico was more transparent with what was going on over there, Socialist China is not and was not.
     
  14. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 12, 2010
    Messages:
    28,046
    Likes Received:
    10,561
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Absolutely false.

    https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/swineflu/16606

    Incorrect again. Testing wasn't widely available until September of 2009.

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/2009-pandemic-timeline.html

    I think your anti Trump perspective are causing revisionist history.
     
  15. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 12, 2010
    Messages:
    28,046
    Likes Received:
    10,561
    Trophy Points:
    113
  16. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 12, 2010
    Messages:
    28,046
    Likes Received:
    10,561
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You do realize that a HHS Public Health Emergency is not the same thing as a National Emergency Declaration by the President, right?
     
  17. StillBlue

    StillBlue Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Messages:
    13,171
    Likes Received:
    14,777
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Of course and when there are only 20 cases globally at the time that was the appropriate move because it allowed congress to act and make emergency funds available which it did. A national emergency is declared at the point when laws need to be suspended and was declared when a viable vaccine was created and testing and production rules suspended to speed up the process. Also it allowed federal payments to hospitals and doctors using alternative sites to treat H1N1 to keep the hospitals as clear of it as possible.
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  18. StillBlue

    StillBlue Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Messages:
    13,171
    Likes Received:
    14,777
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You're right, the CDC/Obama admin declared a national health emergency 11 days not one week after first case identified. I don't think a 4 day error makes it an "absolutely false" statement, more of a nitpicking on your part don't you think?

    CDC tests began global shipping of May 1st two weeks, er actually 16 days, after 1st case.

    Speaking of revisionist history...
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  19. Pycckia

    Pycckia Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2015
    Messages:
    18,284
    Likes Received:
    6,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Trump declared a public health emergency Jan 31, about six weeks before WHO declared a pandemic on March 11 and four weeks after China announced the existence of the corona virus. There were seven confirmed cases in the US and no deaths.

    https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-01-31-20-intl-hnk/index.html
     
  20. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2015
    Messages:
    17,002
    Likes Received:
    9,420
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You don't know me or my history. Nice try tho
     
  21. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2015
    Messages:
    17,002
    Likes Received:
    9,420
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That pages LITERALLY says that they declared a "National Health Emergency" ?


    DO you even read what you post ?

    The VACINE wasn't widely available until Sept, but testing WAS......


    Why is pointing out that he is lying about what he did "anti Trump".
     
    Last edited: Mar 20, 2020
  22. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 12, 2010
    Messages:
    28,046
    Likes Received:
    10,561
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So you admit that your dates were wrong, but I have a revisionist memory?

    Trump declared a National Health Emergency on January 31, when there were only 6 reported cases in the US.

    You all are so desperate to hate Trump about something, you don't even see that it was almost identical to Obama's response.
     
  23. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 12, 2010
    Messages:
    28,046
    Likes Received:
    10,561
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And? Trump also declared a National Health Emergency when there were just 6 cases on January 31. About the same timeline as Obama.



    I do, clearly you are having comprehension issues. The testing wasn't actually readily available until May 1. About the same timeline as Obama.



    Because your blatently just making **** up to support you anti-Trump BS. And you're getting called on it.
     
  24. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2015
    Messages:
    17,002
    Likes Received:
    9,420
    Trophy Points:
    113
    6 KNOWN cases with VERY LIMITED tests available. It wasn't about the number of cases, it was about TIME. But if you want to play that game we can. Obama declared the NHE with only one verified case

    Trump on the other hand: (short list of denial of the virus))
    Jan 20th - First US case is reported in Washington state
    Jan 22nd: "We have this totally under control. Its only 1 person coming from China" (number of cases: 20)
    Feb 24th: "The Corona virus is very much under control" (number of cases: 43)
    March 4th: "We have thousands of people that are getting better" (number of cases: 125)
    March 9th: "The fake news media and their partner the Democratic Party is doing everything to inflame the situation" (number of cases: 194)
    March 10th" "It will go away. Just stay calm, it will go away"

    But hey, on Jan31st he knew this was a bad enough problem to declare a national emergency ? Yet he made the above statements after it. Correct ?


    The only problem was the WHO had tests that they were using thruout the world since december.....hmmmmmm. The WHO has conducted over 1million testes worldwide, the US has tested 16,000.

    Making nothing up. They are ALL verifiable timelines. You inject "anti-Trump" as a defense, because you cant defend the facts.

    Explain Trumps statements and how the man is literally proving you wrong.
     
  25. ptif219

    ptif219 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2011
    Messages:
    10,299
    Likes Received:
    508
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I will take that as I am right
     

Share This Page