Obama birth certificate analysis - full documentary online

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  1. scott e.

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    yes, i believe so.
     
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    Birthers are like the dog that is chasing his tail, at first it is funny to watch but when they continue to do it on and on you start realizing there is something really wrong with the dog. Sad
     
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    it's true the average iq is 100. i like the people that voted for obama and chicago have no idea what he's up to. but why is he still campaigning ? so, perhaps obama could be the dog in your analogy. or the people who voted for him could be the dog. or the dog could be the dog. we'll see who's the dog when he concludes his alinsky business. as long as conserative control the house and the money, america should be ok. four more years of blaming everything on... wait for it... the dog.
     
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    And, I assume that that somewhere is into the same wall repeatedly...
     
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    mr. obama tear down that wall. he will, when he wants to.
     
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    I'm done here...
     
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    you'll be back.
     
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    But she is not correct that it is a forgery. It is instead an ordinary PDF created by scanning an ordinary document and optimizing it for the Internet.

    This process does digitally alter the document, but it does not change it. It does not turn truth into fiction; it does not change the meaning of words or moveHonolulu to the coast of Kenya. And most importantly, it does not make the original document from which it was copied and altered suddenly disappear.

    The only genuine expert in digital image analysis that has publicly commented on the Obama PDF hadan important and sensible observation as a preface to his discussion. Dr. Neil Krawetz observed that:[D]igital document analysis can detect manipulation, but it cannot determine whetherthe original subject is authentic. The authenticity can only be determined by the State of Hawaii, and they already said that it is authentic.



    On June 13, 2008 then candidate Barack Obama released his sealed and certified Hawaiian birthcertificate to the press and public. On April 27, 2011 he did so again, this time releasing his long formversion. Both documents have been attested to by the government of the State of Hawaii as authentic,as proving that he was born in the United States of America. With those acts, he has provided moreproof of his natural born citizenship than any other president or presidential candidate in all of Americanhistory.




    this is from our old pal wong kim ark's analysis of mara zebests's analysis.

    i still disagree that the process of going from analog to digital is "digital alteration". something has to already be in digital form in order to be altered as such, the word altered is used for "changing format"

    another thing wong (frank) does is say that no true expert would editorialise said subject which he does. also note the carefully chosen word "attested", not verified. another common narrative by the fogbow and obots is that obama has provided more proof than any other candidate, which supports obama's promise of transparency.

    after three years and false stories about having to get special waiver to secure a long form, they did. it was a dog and pony show with dan pfiefer acting as point man. the reporters were told no recording devices, yet pics were taken. there is also a "press packet" that provides a "black and white" copy. this goes back to john woodman and zebest harrison and denniger could not agree about the color "blue" on the ap "high resolution" copy which is cleaner and sharper than the "digital" PDF.

    then there is this business of techdude. does anyone know his identity ? cause i have a theory on whom that might be.
     
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    poor sad birthers
     
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    this is interesting:

    But of course very few people will really find out since Obama has made it nearly impossible to see the true certificates or other documents, since Obama placed all his records out of touch through his first Executive Order.
    Read more: http://freedomoutpost.com/2012/12/lord-monckton-obama-is-an-illegal-president/#ixzz2EeygivMt


    Presidential Documents
    4669
    Federal Register
    Vol. 74, No. 15
    Monday, January 26, 2009
    Title 3—
    The President
    Executive Order 13489 of January 21, 2009
    Presidential Records
    By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the
    laws of the United States of America, and in order to establish policies
    and procedures governing the assertion of executive privilege by incumbent
    and former Presidents in connection with the release of Presidential records
    by the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) pursuant
    to the Presidential Records Act of 1978, it is hereby ordered as follows:
     
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    Um, EO 13489 revoked EO 13233, which limited access to former Presidents records, which was implemented by GWB...

    Tell me you looked that up before you posted...
     
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    well, that didn't take long. irresistible, isn't it ??
     
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    Why link to a posting that is obviously BS?
     
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    for a reaction. look, you're obviously a smart person, yet you are compelled by this story. even if just for entertainment value. think of it this way, a lot of smart people keep an eye on this. it all started with a gut feeling for me, that started on 4/27/11.

    the case is either right or wrong. but the more i know obama the bigger the puzzle. plus the obots are mostly pretty smart. why have they spent years and endless energy on an issue that does not exist.?

    for me this has always been a study in human nature. what intrests me most is why can't the backstory and evidence be reconciled.

    and i don't just mean ad hominem element. people normally don't act villigiant about something of no value.

    i don't know if it's bs or not, cause it's new. both sides have played complete fabrications, that's part of the process. also, i would suggest everything posted here or linked to is gospel. this subject intrests me, and i have no trouble with transparency in that. the cost of airing for the purposes of discussion is free. thank god we live in a country that even allows this. also, are you interested in other controversies or theory (?), maybe that could be a guage.

    i like the lord monkton for his global warming stance. it's people with name and resource that move the ball down the field. incidentally, obama has apparently racked up some 900 plus executive orders. more than other presidents.

    btw is the limitation to access discretionary ?
     
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    It's not being vigilant about anything...

    It's just so easy to mock, that it's hard to pass up...
     
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    yes, exactly.
     
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    poor sad birthers
     
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    don't confuse pointing out stupidity with vigilance.
     
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    i haven't so far.
     
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    That's what you did before...

    You referred to the pointing out of birther stupidity as vigilance...
     
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    i thought you were done here.
     
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    Of course you have...........

     
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    sorry, i was speaking of anti birther vigilance, not the birther side. i was talking about the 0bots themselves.
     

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