Obama: Dems & GOP Overlap 70%

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  1. Horhey

    Horhey Well-Known Member

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    He's proud of the one party state. Ignore the rhetoric (theatrics), he says. The 2 factions only disagree on tactics and process. He points out that they agree on lowering the corporate tax rate and "entitlement reform" (Social Security and Medicare). He describes multi party systems as "dysfunctional".



    The Democratic Plot to Privatize Social Security
    https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/09/30/the-democratic-plot-to-privatize-social-security/
     
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    At any point, does he call for the dissolution of either party? Don't think so.

    Right now, we do have a Hatfields and the McCoys situation, that doesn't mean we can't start a third or fourth party, or change the
    dynamics of one or both parties.
     
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  3. Horhey

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    It's effectively a one party system.

    See Nick Brana's Movement for a Peoples Party:

    https://peoplesparty.org/

     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We desperately need a third party which will likely only happen if we move away from FPTP voting metrics.
    Unfortunately the two party system knows the other side is corrupt and no matter what they do the pendulum will swing back in their favor after a few years — they have no desire to allow a third party.
     
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    Obama Lies A Lot. It would be great if he just Shut The F Up while we uncover just how vile and corrupt his administration was.

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    Obama should move back to his birthplace in Kenya , maybe to the palace Eddie Murphy’s farther, King James Earl Jones owns, where the concubines drop rose pedals along the path he walks
     
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    90% overlap.

    Obama looks more disgusting and reprehensible as each day passes...
     
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    Hard to fathom just how much of a pathetic, P.O.S., un-American, f-**** loser one has to be to take umbrage over this statement, while genuflecting at the alter of the scumbag Fuhrer sitting in the White House. Absolute hilarity. Please carry on.
     
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    No, your bullshit Blue team vs Red team koolaid guzzling is hilarious. Obama was just as bad , if not worse than trump.
    I bet if you took a sip of the “make America great again “ koolaid, you’d notice it taste just like the “hope & change” koolaid.
     
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    His name is a Robert Paulsen...... ****, I mean Barack Hussein Obama.

    His name is Barack Hussein Obama. His name is Barack Hussein Obama. His name is Barack Hussein Obama. His name is Barack Hussein Obama. His name is Barack Hussein Obama......
     
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    This reminds me of something Ross Perot told us during his first run for the presidency. He said there wasn't much difference between the two parties. To watch their actions, not listen to what they say. A lot of what they say is with a wink and a nod to those who provide them with their money. Now I'm going to talk bad about you, but don't worry, you'll be taken care of. Watch how they govern, what they do, not their political talking points or the rhetoric spouted before the public.

    I'll add this, both parties owe their heart and soul to corporations, wall street firms, lobbyist, special interests, mega money donors, etc. This is where they get their tens of millions of dollars for their campaigns and running and financing their organizations. Neither is about to bite the hand that feeds it. If you go check with open secrets you'll see corporations, companies and the firms from Wall Street, you'll find quite a lot of them donate to both parties, candidates from both parties. Sure, they'll give more to who they think will win, but they cover themselves by donating to the challengers also. So no matter who wins, the winner still owes them.
     
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    There will never be a viable third party. One has to remember its the democrats and republicans that write our election laws. They do so as a mutual protection act. If there is one thing both major parties agree on, it's that no viable third party will ever rise to threaten them.

    Then there is the financial aspect of it. Both major parties receive their millions upon millions of dollars from corporations, wall street firms, lobbyist, special interests, mega money donors. It's a very good investment for these moneyed folks. They receive a good return on their investments, being smart businessmen, if they didn't they wouldn't invest, ah, donate to the candidates and parties. These moneyed folks don't give a dime to any third party candidate. It is enough to have to invest in both major parties, not to have to shell out more money to third parties if a third party grew strong enough to challenge the big two. It's in their interest, the moneyed folks interest to keep the amount they have to invest down to the bare minimum.

    Hillary Clinton and Trump raised and spent nearly 2 billion dollars in 2016. All third party candidates put together, 6 million. You can't compete with that big a gap, financially and politically. Although 57% of all Americans say a viable third party is needed, it will never come about.

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/244094...utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndication

    The two major parties due to their manlipulation of our election laws and the moneyed folks won't let it happen.
     
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    I’m a conservative Republican. I agree with nothing proposed by Nancy Pelosi. Her values and plans for America are truly repulsive.

    Republicans and Democrats are not identical and interchangeable.
     
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    A lot of this is for the sake of simplicity. Most people are simple and cant handle too many options as it can become too cumbersome to distinguish differences. Coke Pepsi. Chevy ford. Federalist anti federalist. Confederate Yankee. Fascist Communist. Of course there are exceptions to every rule, but generally people prefer to keep it simple even when it is against their interests.
     
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    Better they have it than the government.
     
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    I do plan to give Jo Jorgenson a look as I was a big advocate for Harry Browne at one time. I'm more interested in seeing what their platform entails.
     
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    But the determining factor is the votes. Why are the voters constantly voting for the same slime over and over and over and over?
     
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    What choice do the voters have? I take it you're talking about both major parties, their candidates, their elected officials and not just one party. The fact is our two major parties have a monopoly on our two party electoral system. They write our election laws and they do so as a mutual protection act. If there is one thing both major parties agree on, it's that no viable third party will ever rise to challenge them. So when you go to vote, your choices for most offices are two, Republican and Democrat. Chances of one of the two major party candidates winning is somewhere between 99-100% for all elected offices in the land.

    Money, finances, both major parties are well backed by corporations, wall street firms, lobbyists, special interests, mega money donors, etc. That's where the two major parties get their tens of millions, perhaps hundreds of millions of dollar to run their organizations, party and candidates. These folks don't donate a dime to third parties. Look at 2016 presidential race. Hillary raised and spent 1.191 billion, Trump 646.8 Million. Compare that to all other third party candidates, all 20 of them, they raised and spent 6 million.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-presidential-campaign-fundraising/

    Even if they get on the ballot, what chance do they have being outspent by approximately 2 billion to 6 million? No way to get their message out, the media ignores them, no presidential debates for them, not enough money to buy TV or radio time. Just a third name on the ballot that no one ever heard of.

    Why do the voters keep electing and reelecting the slimes, because there is no other realistic choice. It all has to do with the monopoly the two parties have on our election system, the media, the debates, the financial backers.
     
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