Obama DHS Purchases 2,700 Light-Armored Tanks

They've probably been reading posts here at PF and are preparing for the right wing nutjobs.

 

As criminals in the U.S. acquire more and better weaponry, I see no reason why law enforcement officers shouldn't be protected when the occasion calls for it.

Do you have some reason why you prefer our law enforcement to be less protected?

 

Good point. If we're going to let criminals and nut jobs have access to assault type weapons, we need a law enforcement capability to deal with it.

 

Yea, it's a like a war-zone out there. God bless the US...

I don't want to live in a martial police state, so I oppose the militarization of our domestic police forces. If something requires actual military-style intervention, then get the military. Domestic police forces are supposed to be integrated within their communities, not riding around like a platoon of infantry Marines in a war-zone. I also object to the arbitrary and unjust criminalization of peaceful activities by corrupt politicians.

Maybe we should give them some fifty caliber machine guns mounted on top of an up-armored Humvee. That would help them better attack Americans who do not obey the dictates of the corrupt political class.

 

No this happens to Be Firsthand Abject PROOF { Indisputable } that's it's
actually the Lefties the,Far Left like Obama and Napolitano who are rabid in
their " means to an end ". Or the Total Control of the Populace.Look at what they
are willing to purchase and use on our Big city Streets.They have alreadly
been training with those Gun Ported,up-armored vehicles.Not for Foreign
but Domestic Conquest.
But go ahead ... Tell us all how we're just imagining things.
Like the now 2 Billions rounds of bullets that our Crazy lefties in the Government
tried to suppress.
Oh and tell us all how Obama and Biden Don't wanna take away guns.
You creeps can't even lie with credibility.

 

You figure a six shooter ought to do the trick, eh?

 

i guess you missed the part about them being refitted surplus?

 

If we were talking about this becoming the standard vehicle for all law enforcement you might have a point. But I am in favor of our law enforcement having the appropriate tools for the job. The highway patrol won't be using these for stopping speeders and the beat cops are not going to be patrolling in these. I would be fine however with Border Patrol having this kind of protection. But its stated goal is for specific operations which would be higher risk.

I am opposed to police being shot.

 

You are a movie buff- you might appreciate this quote

Inigo Montoya: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

 

Who do you think does the refitting?

 

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/page/294634_Factchecking-_Obama_DHS_Purcha

 

if the story wasn't bunk, it could have been DHS themselves. who up fitted Humvees in Iraq?

 

I regret I helped spread the unsubstantiated rumor that these MRAPS were being purchased by DHS.

It appears that this is not the case.

 

Thank you sir.

 

in all fairness to the OP, it wasn't claimed that they purchased to DHS, but transfered. since they haven't been built yet, they couldn't possibly be transfered.

 

The "job" is to wage war on a fictitious criminal class at the behest of corrupt politicians using military-style tactics and equipment. Doesn't sound like much of a job to me...

Higher risk? Like conducting military-style raids in residential zones because you suspect there is a coke-dealer living in the area? Hopefully they get the right address, because sometimes they end up in the wrong house...

Then do not send them to wage war on the American people.

 

Police do not require armored tanks to do their normal, every day job. They already have bullet proof equipment and gear that prevents them from being killed en masse. This is paramilitary "warfare" equipment, ergo they intend to wage war.

Had Bush done this every liberal Democrat in the place would be up in arms, but there are crickets chirping when Obama does it. The level of trust leveled at Obama is absurd as when conservatives gave it to Bush.

For those who blithely support this militarization of our police force, I hope you remember that there is another election in 4 years and it may be Jeb Bush with that equipment.

 

How do you know all of this? Everything is progressive. Police weren't equipped with tasers in large numbers years ago, and, at first, they did not use them. Now, it is standard operating procedure. They will argue that it is safer to patrol streets in these than a cop car--and they would be right.

Having lived in a communist country as a child, I can tell you the fear that having tanks roll down your street inspires.

Look at the statistics. It's rare, far, far rarer than innocent suspects being shot.

 

It makes no sense to purchase additional MRAP vehicles for the military. There will be about 20,000 MRAP variants returning from Afghanistan and Kuwait, where they've already been piling up to be shipped back to the U.S. after service in Iraq. The Army’s plan for now is to repair and update them and put many of the MRAPS into prepositioned storage around the world for use in potential future conflicts, as well as put a smaller number in with existing support units.

It's my opinion this recent purchase is a contingency plan for use against the citizenry in an urban environment.
A contingency plan mind you...for an economic collapse.

 

At what point would you fight back?

When they came for Muslims, and called them 'domestic terrorists' on their media?

When they came for 'enablers of terror', that you were sure were merely a charity, that fed the chidren, somewhere?

When they came for 'domestic white terror cells', that you did not even know existed, but they must do..?

When they came for anyone that spoke out against bankers and financial hucksters?

When?

If at all?

Honest questions, to each and all..

 

www.news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/030513-646857-dhs-buys-special-armored-fighting-vehicles.htm

It appears this issue is STILL in doubt. This IBD editorial cites a DHS source.

Sorry for the unavoidable flip-flopping.

 

bad link

 

If it's only the Obama DHS, then why don't all the other DHS's stop them?

 

I just find this thirst for the blood of police rather appalling.

Two policemen going to arrest a sex abuse suspect were shot down in cold blood in Santa Cruz this last week. They weren't waging war on the American people- they were trying to make them safe. In the last month we had a loonie ex-cop conducing a revenge campaign against the family members of those who he felt abused by- two more cops were shot when they encountered him- one was killed.

I am completely against our drug war. BUT- that doesn't mean I have any tolerance for drug growers, meth cookers and drug dealers who are heavily armed(usually to protect themselves against other criminals) who threaten our communities- and the police who are sent to clear them out.

These armored vehicles are not carrying heavy weaponry- they are completely designed to protect the people inside from being shot.

Once again- I am against our police being shot. It saddens me that so many Americans disagree with that.

 

If that is the link that I think you wanted it was an article that cites an article in Spanish from Russia Today.....which is a combination of Russian tabloid and Russian propaganda.

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If that is the link that I think you wanted it was an article that cites an article in Spanish from Russia Today.....which is a combination of Russian tabloid and Russian propaganda.