Obama:If you’ve got a business ,you didn’t build that.

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  1. GiveUsLibertyin2012

    GiveUsLibertyin2012 New Member

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    yep,
    according to Obama,If you’ve got a business .
    you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2012/07/14/obama-channels-elizabeth-warren/

    Obama channels Elizabeth Warren
    posted at 4:01 pm on July 14, 2012 by Jazz Shaw

    The President decided to take pity on the blogosphere, it seems. As we struggle through a hot July weekend and a news cycle about as dry as the drought conditions outside, he decided to throw us a small bone as the transcript was released from some remarks he delivered last night at a fire station in Roanoke, Virginia.

    The basic message here is that the President just wants to help. Times are tough and employers are having a hard time creating jobs. :):: cough ::: regulations ::: cough :::) But if you happen to be a business owner, the President wishes you the best. His help and good wishes, however, come with one small caveat… just remember that you didn’t build that business, so don’t get too cocky.

    (You’ll have to scroll almost all the way to the end to find this gem. Emphasis mine.)

    There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me — because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t — look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something — there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)

    If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.

    I suppose this is the part where you remind them that when you jack up their taxes, it’s really just so you can give that money back to all the other people who actually built their business. But seriously, this is straight off the pages of Elizabeth Warren’s mind bending remarks from early this year. Those came crashing down around her ears, even in some Left leaning circles, so it’s a serious puzzler as to why Barack Obama would try to pick up that ball and run with it. Rather revealing, though.
    Whats this goofball know about running a business?Hes too incompetent to even run a lemonade stand.
     
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    Taking out of context. He's saying you didn't do it alone.

    There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me -- because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t -- look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)

    If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

    The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press...rks-president-campaign-event-roanoke-virginia
     
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    It's true that practically all business owners have had some sort of help along the way. I got a loan, that was the help I got. But he can't seriously mean this:

    He must have mispoke, because yes, I did build it. Nobody is out there finding me customers, nobody is out there doing the work for me.
     
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    I built and run my company. Not the government. (*)(*)(*)(*) you Obama.
     
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    If you listen to the context, it's clear he wad talking about the roads and bridges from the previous sentence.

    What I take issue with is not this. If government was just building roads, bridges, and firehouses (to use what he mentioned), it would be perfect. The problem is the Democrats think government should be "building" full bellies and hospitals, and republicans think government should be building families and middle eastern nations.
     
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    Even if he's referring to the totality of 'systems' and infrastructure, his statement still doesn't make much sense, as it's the wealthy and successful who've made greater contributions towards it all, who've made it possible for the government to have such resources to draw from.
     
  7. GiveUsLibertyin2012

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    That's almost like telling a chef, "You didn't make that stew! The potato's helped!"
     
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    If that's what the recipe calls for, then yes, they did. As did the knives, and pots and pans, and stoves. Can't make food without proper equipment. All of which is not built/created/put together by the Chef.
     
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    This goes back to the age-old caveat that is the unofficial motto of the industry that I built my business upon: "Guns don't kill people. People kill people."

    Actually, the "riddle of steel" from Conan the Barbarian says it best: "What is steel compared to the hand that wields it?"

    Translation for the Cubed-challenged: What good are all those potatoes, knives, pots, pans, and stoves without a Chef to use them to make that recipe? Without the Chef, all that you're left with is uncooked, unpeeled potatoes and a pot of room temperature water.
     
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    Business people get all their money from us working people, or overcharging other businesses, or the government. You don't make any of it yourself, and half the time they're making it by scamming or ripping people off.
     
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    I remember the 60-80 hour weeks, the Ramen noodles, the scraping of every penny to get the business up and running......

    ......what I dont remember......is a two bit Chitcago parasite or anyone else there lending a hand.......
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    Then why arent you doing it?
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  13. paco

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    Nobody is ripping you off. The deal is simple, if you don't want the goods that I'm selling, then get the hell out of my establishment. Nobody's making you buy it. That is how I make my money, son. I offer a service that people choose to pay for. Without me, they don't get my services. Simple as that.
     
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    You open a lemonade stand. A guy comes along and gives you one lemon he took from another lemonade stand. You buy hundreds of other lemons, run your lemonade stand properly, and make some money. The comes back along and says "Hey, look what you and me did together." And then he takes 10 more of your lemons to give to lemonade stands that are failing.
     
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    Conan would have a hard time cutting someone's head off without a sword. This is the issue, your saying that without the chef none of that matters, and the flipside is that without the stuff, the chef is just some guy.

    My point is that all work together, for without one you can't have the other. it doesn't work. I don't believe that the specific comment that 'if you have a business, you didn't build it,' works, but if you add 'alone' to the end of it, then you have an accurate portrayal of business in America.
     
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    He was competent enough to become President of the USA. Only 43 other guys have done that. And guess what? You weren't one of them. And if that dummy magic underwear wearing Romney becomes President I'll give him credit as well. Even though he's a dummy.
     
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    And the producers of those things got what they felt was enough to make those things worth parting with. What right do they then have to demand more?
     
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    What do you have against a strong economy where more than just one person is successful?
     
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    I would have to disagree, I have spent countless hours, working on my company, building my client base, volunteering, spending money my family often could have used. I charge a fair price for my services (below market rate) and my company sponsors countless non-profit efforts. We understand that the business that we do in our community not only has an impact on my bottom line but also the community we serve.

    I said all of that to say this, there are some businesses in the world that aren't evil and are trying to do the right thing.
     
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    The basic business transaction involves buying and selling. Once that transaction is complete, sans credit or charge, then the transaction is over. Nothing is owed, everybody gets paid or what they paid for, and that's it. So what was it that Obama was trying to explain to us? Is he saying that us business owners somehow owe other people for our success? The way I see it, once our business transaction is complete, I owe you nothing, and you owe me nothing.

    Therefore, it's obvious to me that Obama doesn't know jack about business if he is trying to say otherwise. If he wasn't trying to say otherwise, then what the hell is he doing trying to explain to us real businessmen how the business world works? The idiot never even studied the subject in school.
     
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    When you opened the lemonade stand you bought lemons from a lemon grower. He bought ladders from a ladder manufacturer. They hired an engineer to design their industrial layout and operations. The engineer paid a school to teach him engineering. The schools pay a professor to educate young minds. The teacher has his lawn mowed once a week by local high school kid. And after the kid gets paid he is hot and tired from mowing, so he buys a cup of lemonade from your (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) lemonade stand.
     
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    The problem with political speeches, especially Presidential ones, is that the President doesn't write them. It's doubtful if he even has time to read it once before he's giving it to the crowd. He's trusting that his team gives him some accurate information before he starts flapping his jaws. As you can see sometimes they are sub-par. He might want to hire better writers and some good editors.

    Based on Romney's noise he's going to be in a world of trouble if he doesn't get a better team if he does win the election.
     
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    Or...

    [video=youtube;2K_xZcjsVuw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K_xZcjsVuw[/video]
     
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    Take away the Teleprompter and the Village Idiot emerges every time...
     

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