Obama made a mistake when he decided the country was not best served......

Well I don't know if its audacity, but it's definitely the norm! The hyperbolic left wing propaganda sites seem to be the "GO TO" in most of these threads!

 

Well if it were of logic, I would think not!

 

Clinton supporters routinely referred to it as an "attempt to overturn the result of the 1996 election".

Assuming that is true, an assumption I make because you did not offer proof, they were wrong then just as Trumpists are wrong now.

 

Your doubling down on being disingenuous doesn't make it better, it makes it worse.

 

You should memorize this:

NO COLLUSION
NO OBSTRUCTION
NO IMPEACHMENT

say it loud and proud!

 

I am just asking you to support your comments....I didn't actually expect you to be able to.

 

I already have. But you knew that. Hence, your being disingenuous.

 

I really don't recall...you sent me to a post where you didn't cite any pages. None. Prior to that you have been posting some leftwing's blog

 

Your reliance on doublethink in the face of.................. "if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the prez did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state,"..................is noted.

 

Not my problem.

 

To be fair, many of those "civilians" were pirates were had been raiding Muslim towns for decades.

 

If you had read Mueller's report you'd know the summaries of the report written up by Lawfare refer to the pages where Mueller makes his case obstruction occurred. Like this one........

Order to McGahn to deny Trump’s order to fire Mueller

Obstructive act (p. 11: This effort “would qualify as an obstructive act if it had the natural tendency to constrain McGahn from testifying truthfully or to undermine his credibility as a potential witness[.]” There is “some evidence” that Trump genuinely believed press reports that he had ordered McGahn to fire Mueller were wrong. However, “[o]ther evidence cuts against that understanding of the president’s conduct”—and the special counsel lists a great deal more evidence on this latter point.

Nexus (p. 119): At this point “the Special Counsel’s use of a grand jury had been further confirmed by the return of several indictments.” Mueller’s office had indicated to Trump’s lawyers that it was investigating obstruction, and Trump knew that McGahn had already been interviewed by Mueller on the topic. “That evidence indicates the President’s awareness” that his efforts to fire Mueller were relevant to official proceedings. Trump “likely contemplated the ongoing investigation and any proceedings arising from it” in directing McGahn to create a false record of the earlier interaction.

Intent (p. 120): “Substantial evidence indicates that … the President acted for the purpose of influencing McGahn’s account in order to deflect or prevent further scrutiny” of Trump.

 

Again, read the entire report, not bits and pieces, telling you what it is....and no place in the report does Mueller conclude the elements were all met, your liberal blogger is adding his opinion...and you are trying to pass it off as Mueller's report. That's been the major problem with liberal voters

 

Maybe because it wouldn't make it through the Senate? Democrats who started this whole hoax put the American people through 2 years of Mueller and 24/7 smears and lies from MSM. Mueller found nothing to indict Trump on, but that's not enough for Democrats. They want to impeach which would put the American people through more because the Democrats just can't accept defeat. Then the Senate closes impeachment down, so the Democrats fail again.
Don't you think that even the dumbest of the dumb Democrat voter would be sick of their party because they persecuted Trump, and just not vote on election day. And Independents would have to think it's a Democrat vendetta.Then the Democrats fail a third time because Trump is re-elected. I know Democrats have no common sense, but think about it...

 

If you can read pages 117-119 of Vol. II and still refuse to admit the clear case Mueller makes under ("The President Orders McGahn to Deny That the President Tried to Fire the Special Counsel") qualifies as an act of obstruction of justice, as summarized by Lawfare, then any further discussion with you is pointless. I waste enough time on this silly board already without dealing with another Trumper who will not stipulate to the facts.

 

I agree it's unlikely. But I continue to hold out hope some Senate Repubs will acknowledge the truth someday.

 

You're kidding right?

 

not at all....I mean we have the Report, use it, don't add opinion.

 

If you can read pages 117-120 of Vol. II and still refuse to admit the clear case Mueller makes under ("The President Orders McGahn to Deny That the President Tried to Fire the Special Counsel") qualifies as an act of obstruction of justice, as summarized by Lawfare, then any further discussion with you is pointless. I waste enough time on this silly board already without dealing with another Trumper who will not stipulate to the facts.

I thought I'd give you another opportunity for a brief moment of honesty.

 

I don't really care how some liberal blogger summarizes things up....I am asking did Mueller make that recommendation? The answer is NO....no where, and at no time will Trump be charged, because nobody made that recommendation. Why? Because we can find many other pundits says there was no obstruction over during those pages because 1)McGahan couldn't fire the Special Counsel 2) nothing happened 3) the President stated concerns for why he wanted him fired, seprate and appart of the investigation 4)it wouldn't of stopped the investigation, just like when he fired Comey.....which all go to the idea of intent...let alone a corrupt intent...

The fact is you, adn the DNC are desperate, because your hoax failed, and now are desperately trying to cling to anything

 

Thank you for expressing your ill-informed opinion. I've been trying to cull those of you who will not stipulate to the facts so I don't waste time dealing with posters who deny the sky is blue. Your posts put you squarely in that category. My list of ignored posters has a new entry. Have a nice life.

 

Ya, if you cant see it my way then I'm taking my toys and going home, that's nothing new Lee.

 

Dude? The mueller report found not crimes...stipulate to that fact

 

Actually 538 tracked almost exactly, the 2016 presidential election. Their data clearly showed Hillary winning, until the day Comey announced the Wiener Laptop email thing. They then showed Hillary's popularity drop below Trump's.

 

It is not a crime for an obese man to walk around wearing only his Speedos, but it is disgusting nonetheless.