Obama: Most people can get Obamacare for $50 to $100 a month

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  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Go to the link and check out the video of Obama saying most people can get health insurance for $50 to $100 a month.

    I'm paying about $800 a month for family health insurance and have a $12,500 deductible, that's a little more than four times what I was paying pre Obamacare - 48,000 other company employees are on the same plan I have. Last year I went to the Obamacare exchange and my costs would have sky rocketed even more if I had signed up with them.

    So help me here, when Obama says most folks can get insurance for $50 to $100 a month, what folks does he mean and how do I become one of them?

     
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    You can keep your own doctor, too.
     
  3. MrTLegal

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    You do know what the word "most" implies, right? That it has a different meaning from the word "all?"
     
  4. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you serious?
     
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    Yes. Most people can get health insurance for 50-100 per month because they have a small enough income to qualify for subsidies. If you feel that you should get subsidies (like, the cost of your health insurance compared to your income is too high), then I would suggest talking to an advisor.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you implying that Obama made insurance so expensive that ‘most’ of the country can’t afford it without other people subsidizing them?
     
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    The only thing Obama did in terms of "making insurance" was to require that it cover pre-existing conditions, cover certain basics like mental health and pregnancy, and start to work before you reached the catastrophic level of 100k in medical bills.

    Beyond those minimums, the cost of insurance was dictated by the private market.
     
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    ........He's lying,
     
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    Maybe you need to be an illegal alien.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then why did schools and local governments lay off or reduce hours for their workers? Hint: it was because Obamacare requirements were killing them financially. Did you forget about those days, the days when pelosi said people getting laid off or having their hours reduced would benefit by being able to spendi more time with their families?
     
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    The video won't play, but if he said this, it's the Lie of the Century.

    Moochelle on the other hand... :cheerleader:
     
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    That's downplaying things. Obamacare greatly expanded what must be covered to a ridiculous amount, including men being covered for breast pumps. Obamacare forced insurance companies to greatly increase their prices to cover everything and bribed them with government cash. Not saying the insurance companies weren't happy with this arrangement, but the massive price hike is squarely on Obamacare. A system that is only affordable to the poorest and expensive as hell to everyone else is not a good system.
     
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    Completely false.
     
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    ...in California.
     
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    It's not even affordable to the poorest.
     
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    Go on welfare.
     
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    That is a lie Obama is telling and feeding to his worshipers who retell the lie and expect it to be true.

    What a crock of donkey crap.
     
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    The disinformation from the Right is never-ending!

    First of all, the Obamacare exchange is for a SINGLE insurance plan for a single person or only a family! In that individual market, rates are higher, but before Obamacare you would have to be near perfect health and it included important inclusions for free maintenance, unlimited coverage (like when your child or an adult is found to have chronic or severe health conditions - conditions that meant death or utter bankruptcy, losing homes, etc. for many befire Ibamacire!), of course, Obamacore could can not be canceled!

    For workers for large corporations, this "$800 health insurance" is just a fraction of the costs! The employer is probably shouldering 1/2 to 2/3 of the insurance costs BEYOND the employees part of his and his families health insurance!

    AND the discounts of the efficiency of having a 48,000 member group which saves billing and administration costs!

    AND the fact that large groups can be allowed to eliminate portions of the insurance coverage the owners can skip. Expensive coverage like hemophilia? Chronic diseases? Kidney dialysis? Many cancers? Limited to generic drugs? Too bad, you or your family are just out of luck!

    AND your job might have family policies that can have limits of payments, sometimes absurd low limits like a million dollars. Many have $3 million dollars, or $5 million FAMILY limits, not even for a each person anymore!

    AND even if your job may have very good coverages, in the last 15 years, the employers are looking at costs from a family's medical costs, the employee will often facing a "reduce in force" just when the employee is having a medical costing crisis, or even simply having of an employer hearing of the possibility problem with a spouse or child, guess what! You are layoff or fired! THEN try finding a job! The screening companies for recommendations for employers that provide employee rating have all of that in there evaluations, and you will never know why you can't get a job or why you get layoff.

    There is half-dozen another ways that employees can get screwed, but Republicans cant care less what happens to the men, women and children who lose the healthcare lottery, something that no other industrialized tolerayes (and they save half their expenses), but hey, tge Republicans don't care, at least until they get hurt, then they scream and cry like gge best of ghem!



    Simple.

    Vote Democrat.
     
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    "Most" people are earning less than $30,000 a year.

    Most Americans now earning less than $30,000

    (caveat: statistics are from 2015)

    Now, if we only imported another ten million people from south of the border, imagine how much easier providing universal health coverage would be!
     
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    You have some **** health insurance. I am paying $540 per month, with a $1,400 deductible with a $6,400 out of pocket max. You should seriously consider Medicare for all. Other nations pay as much to cover 100% of their populations as we do on just Medicare and Medicaid. Many of these countries have a mix of private and public hospitals, and a mix of government insurance, and private insurance if you want more covered. That would sure save your family a lot of money. You'd pay the same amount in Medicare and Medicaid taxes, but no more $800 per month for insurance and no more $12,500 deductible. Thats how people in other developed countries live.
     
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    I don't have insurance. I went to the doc a few weeks ago for the second time in about 20 years. It cost me $100 cash to see the doc and $10 cash for meds. It was $50 the one other time years ago (Obama era), because thats all they were allowed to charge without paying a firm to figure out how much to charge. So $160 in 20 years comes to... not enough to do the math.

    I will be looking at catastrophic plans soon since Im getting old... but 'Obamacare' worked out pretty well for me (I applied for and was granted exemptions to the individual mandate- the beauracracy was a pain, but meeting the reqs was a cinch).
     
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    Ahh, yes, the main "solution" of the Right for Americas health care needs - being lucky!

    For all the people who get laid off, bad genes, work a job or live in a house that makes them sick, and all the other ways good people get screwed over, well, that's what skid row gutters are for!
     
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    they may of been able to under Obama, but the Trump admin has changed that, republicans want the people to pay even more for health care and they want to do away with ore-existing conditions exemptions
     
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    I am more worried about outsourcing the good tech jobs overseas and people importing all their goods from overseas... if Americans have no good jobs, we will become a 3rd world country

    the next Trump we get may be a younger version that could actually become a dictator that republicans would bend over backwards for... the next Hitler - lucky for America... Dirty Donald is a old man
     
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    Sure, anyone can get health care if you qualify for 50-100 a month. What happens when they go to the hospital with a 10-20K delectable. Who is going to pay for that. The insurance is worthless for the average person who qualifies.
     
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