Obama = worst president in history?

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  1. Raeka

    Raeka New Member

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    Regardless of whether BO gets re-elected or not, and with so many socialists running around with their hand out, looking for their free Obama phones and such, he might be...

    But that doesn't change his record which will establish him as one of the worst failures as president of the US. He will finally take that yoke from around Carter's neck and will wear it into the indefinite future.

    That gives me very little satisfaction. I hate seeing our country destroyed by that empty suit in an empty chair.

    Another record BO made was he played more golf than any prior president x 4!

    And we'll never forget he flew off to a Las Vegas fund raiser after he heard our ambassador and 4 others were murdered in a terroist attack. Just like he spent less than 12 hours in NY/NJ after thousands were left homeless and hurting after getting his photos comforting them.

    Nauseating.
     
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    Remember the guy who was president before Obama. What was his name, the one you never hear from anymore, oh yeah George Bush it was lol. He was easily the worst for his getting us into Iraq based on total crap and the financial debacle at the end of his second term.
     
  3. Raeka

    Raeka New Member

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    Yeah, Bush was pretty bad I will admit that. I didn't vote for him - either time! But BO is far worse. At least Bush followed his heart. BO 's actions are coldly calculated for political advantage.

    Bush really believed that Iraq had the weapons of mass destruction. Can't blame HIM for bad information given to him. But he did a lot of other things wrong and was far too arrogant careless with his cowboy antics.
     
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    DDave Well-Known Member

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    Oh, you mean the one that Clinton and the Dems put in motion with the Community Reinvestment Act and their meddling in the housing market? That financial debacle? Yeah, that was bad.

    Hey, why didn't Obama end those two wars you guys are always (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing about?

    And why did he extend the "Bush tax cuts"? I guess they're the "Obama tax cuts" now, aren't they.
     
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    Sorry eight years into his term Bush owns the financial collapse. Second starting wars is a lot easier then getting yourself back out. That was one of the big flaws , no exit strategy. Third the Bush tax cuts got extended for the wealthy because the republicans demanded that or they would kill the cuts for the middle as well.
     
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    So . . . how far into Obama's term do we have to go before he "owns" anything?

    Any of the bad stuff that is. I know he of course owns all the good stuff. :roll:
     
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    Same as Bush, 8 years.:razz:
     
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    That's a truly frightening thought . . .
     
  9. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obama will go down in history as a good president. Here's a small list of the achievements he had before 2010 killed all forward momentum.

    1. largest single tax cut in the history of the country
    2. biggest investment in infrastructure since Eisenhower,
    3. biggest single investment in education in history
    4. biggest single investment in alternative energy in history
    5. Obamacare and covering 40 million more americans
    6. The auto bailout
    7. Ending the Iraqi war on schedule
    8. Killing Bin Ladin and invading pakistan to do it
    9. ending Dont Ask Don't Tell
    10. signing SALT and reducing nukes of US & Russian by 30%
    11. Co-ordinating Nato alliance to topple Ghaddafi
    12. Wrenched 20 billion out of oil companies for gulf oil spill fiasco
    13 Increased domestic oil production to highest levels in 12 years became net exporter of oil
    14. Stock Market doubled during first term
    15. Introduced comprehensive wall street reform to prevent another financial meltdown
    16 Appointed to women including the first hispanic to Supreme Court
    17. Passed the Ledbetter bill for women to get equal pay for equal work
    18. Implemented 3 renegotiated free trade deals
    19. Effected release of american ship captured by pirate with seals toasting the pirates/ effective piracy prevention program
    20. Dispatched special forces to Congo to to train troops and destroy Lords Resistance Army
    21. PREVENTED A WORLDWIDE DEPRESSION.


    And nearly all of that in the first two years, because in the second two years the republicans wouldn't entertain any dem bill and in the senate launched a record 247 filabusters.

    so all in all, history will not look unkindly on Obama for his first term.
    Amazingly that was essentiall
     
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    Richard Nixon wins the title 'Worst President'.
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wake me up when he has inherited a strong economy with 4.2% unemployment and a surplus budget and leaves office with record deficits, $5 trillion more debt, the worst economic disaster in 80 years with soaring unemployment, and an unnecessary war.

    Then we can talk.
     
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    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nothing in your comment but ridiculous lies based on ignorance and on brainwashing by the "faux news."
     
  13. Bluesguy

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    Tell me what you would give for 52 weeks of full employment. growing middle incomes, solid GDP/Productivity growth, soaring revenues 40% increase from bottom of the inherited recession, substantial decline in the deficit for three years down to a measly $161B? What would you give right now to have that economic performance? What would you have given not to have had Pelosi and Reid and the Democrats NOT come into power with that strong economy and $161B deficit and then along with the rest of their fellow Congress members including one Senator Barack Obama turn it into a nightmare with deficits almost ten times as high, the worst unemployment in decades, GDP barely keeping it's head above water.
    Why would you reject the former and accept the latter?
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What would you bive for a surplus budget, 4.2% unemployment, decreasing debt, the lowest poverty on record, the longest sustained boom in post war history, real income growth for all income levels, best stock market performance, and 23 million additional jobs?

    Remember in 2000 the biggest problem we had was whethe the surpluses might get too big?

    Boy did we take a wrong turn, eh?
     
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    I'd love to have one after coming out of a recession and into a full recovery like we had under Bush with the recession deficit only peaking at $400B and then falling to $161billion heading for a surplus. Unfortuniately this President hasn't even delivered on cutting it in half and in fact has run four years of Trillion dollar deficits.

    So why do you prefer four years of Trillion dollar deficits over a single one year $400B then down to $161B?

    Full employment between 0-6% is just fine with me why do you prefer 8-10% with the lowest labor participation rate in decades?
    Why do you prefer the $4Trillion plus added by this President?

    Why do you prefer the increasing numbers including a 46% increase under Obama?
    Thanks to the tax cuts that finally put it in high gear sustaining it longer than it would have lasted, why do you prefer tax increases that slow that growth rate and if implement now would put us back into a recession?

    ROFL yes as we were in under Bush, we've lost 23 million jobs since the Democrats including Obama took over, wouldn't you like to have them back then when you have full employment as we did under Bush you don't have to worry about racking up high job creation numbers because EVERYONE IS WORKING ALREADY!! Amazing how that little fact of life continues to escape you.

    Yes because of the budget restraint and tax rate cuts and welfare reform Gingrich and Kasich forced on Clinton we had those brief surpluses, so why don't you want more of that and instead want the policies that will bankrupt the country and put us into a deep depression?

    You got that right and now is the time to turn right again and send the Democrats packing.

    So answer the question, what would you give to have the economy of 1997-2007? Why do you oppose the measures that gave that boom period with the recession in the middle that thanks to Bush policies only had a top unemployment rate of 6.5% for just one month then in receded and 52 months of full employment. Why do you oppose the fiscal restraint that was shown that brought the deficits down and for 3 years surpluses?

    Why do you support what we have now?
     
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    I'd love to have a surplus budget, 4.2% unemployment, decreasing debt, the lowest poverty on record, the longest sustained boom in post war history, real income growth for all income levels, best stock market performance, and 23 million additional jobs.

    Remember in 2000 the biggest problem we had was whethe the surpluses might get too big?

    Boy did we take a wrong turn, eh?
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'd love to have a surplus budget, 4.2% unemployment, decreasing debt, the lowest poverty on record, the longest sustained boom in post war history, real income growth for all income levels, best stock market performance, and 23 million additional jobs.

    Remember in 2000 the biggest problem we had was whethe the surpluses might get too big?

    Boy did we take a wrong turn, eh?

    Why would anyone want to go back to the same policies as the failed policies of the guy who inherited a 4.2% unemployment rate and left with a skyrocketing 7.8% rate, who inherited a surplus budget and left with the biggest deficit in history, and who left us with the worst economy in 80 years?

    Only those invested in failure for political purposes.
     
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    Remember most folks can't remember past Bush 2
     
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    Yeah reading books definitely gives you a leg up.
     
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    and most republicans can't even remember him.
     
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    Don't forget turning a surplus into a massive deficit.

    The Republicans blaming President Obama is a bit like an arsonist blaming the firemen who come to put the fire out because the house burned down.
     
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    By a very wide margin the worst President in history was James Buchanan (elected 1856). He let the nation drift towards Civil War and did nothing to improve the strength of the Union.
     
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    Its too earlly to tell. Only history will tell probably 50 years from now.
     
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    How many people didn't vote against the war with Afghanistan? Kerry? Hillary? Biden? Pelosi? Reid? Only one person in all of Congress voted against that war. And you blame Bush? Only one person with a brain in all of Congress?

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2012/jul/27/congresswoman-barbara-lee-video

    Iraq. How many people voted against that? 156 votes to not go to war with Iraq were cast. 374 people, including 111 Democrats, voted for the war. And you blame one guy?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution

    I'm no fan of any of that nonsense, but to blame one guy when a whole slew of politicians couldn't take a few weeks and think about an exit strategy, that is just partisan and idiotic.
     
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    Obama is not the worst President ever. There are only four candidates that should be considered for that honor. James Buchanan, as explained by Rolo1066, Andrew Johnson (impeached but not convicted), Richard Nixon (resigned in disgrace), and Warren G. Harding (May have been murdered in office but nobody cared enough to investigate).

    Obama is certainly a failed president on the next to lowest rung of the ladder along with Jimmy Carter.
     
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