'Obamagate': Trump pleads with top Republicans to back new theory to help him win election

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    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/trump-obamagate-a9518571.html

    Trump pushes McConnell to embrace ‘Obamagate’
    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/16/trump-mitch-mcconnell-obamagate-261781
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    The Democrats will win, and you all will lose your jobs, unless you join me in another blatant case of bearing false witness.

    If they didn't believe that crap to begin with, they need to START believing it, for political purposes.

    Trump is a master, at bearing false witness. So much so, that he REALLY impresses the evangelicals, that he is a righteous Christian. He has the evangelicals saying he is sent of God, to save the church. But he is telling the Republicans, to promote a lie, so he can weather the criticisms for his conduct and policies, actions.

    He has told the Republicans, that they will lose all, if they will not lie.

    Don't believe this? What things is Trump using, to convince them that it is true? Things NOT already ALLUDED to, without proof?

    Trump is using fear of loss, fear of failure, not facts. THERE are no facts. There are no grounds.

    Trump tested Republicans, before he even ran for Pres, to show they would lie cheat and steal for him. So, he was rather sure they had no scruples, no honor, no dignity.

    Now, they will straight up lie to the American people. And what is the lie? That Obama concocted the greatest political scam ever told, to throw an election. When that is CLEARLY what Trump is doing.
     
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    'Obamagate': Trump pleads with top Republicans to back new theory to help him win election

    Theory? Don't you wish.
     
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    Flynn was a FOREIGN AGENT. Not acceptable, and perfectly right to unmask.
     
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    He has never been a foreign agent. Legal to unmask, not right to unmask. His problem was that as security adviser he would have had an easy time finding the developing coup d'etat attempt. The Obama administration couldn't afford to have him in that job. Now you have the truth.
     
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    Flynn had to register as a foreign agent, but did not. This part of the case against him was dropped as part of the plea deal when he agreed to plead guilty.

    WASHINGTON — President Trump's former national security adviser, Michael Flynn, who was fired from his prominent White House job last month, has registered with the Justice Department as a foreign agent for $530,000 worth of lobbying work before Election Day that may have aided the Turkish government.

    "https://www.nydailynews.com/news/po...-agent-earned-530k-lobbying-article-1.2993217
     
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    Nice work if you can get it.
     
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    The stupidity of this statement is breathtaking, as it is hilarious.
     
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    Flynn registered as a Foreign Agent.
    It was tardy (reported after the fact), but he was a lobbyist for a foreign government.

    However that wasn’t why he was “unmasked”. He was the American citizen having a conversation(s) with Kislyak as Russia was being sanctioned by our government. As far as we know he was supposedly acting on his own and those two pieces of information predicates a counterintelligence investigation. It’s precisely why lying about his communication(s) is material to such an investigation.
     
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    “As far as we know.”
    Hate to break it to you, but you don’t know anything. We don’t know anything. Why haven’t the transcripts of that call been either leaked, or released?
    Why was the FBI ready about to close the investigation on Flynn, until scumbag Peter Strzok intervened, with some bullshit Logan Act nonsense?
     
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    Lol...Not even his mob lawyer is falling for trump's latest desperate brain fart.
    I love how trump is dragging the repubs down with him. The smarter rats are beginning to abandon ship.
     
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    Lol...It's true and you know it, but keep trying to spread the fake obamagate bullshit. After the spanking trump has received from the little virus, he desperately needs a distraction, so instead of leading during the pandemic, he runs off to camp David to conspire with his right wing media cronies how to spin his failures and distract attention from his deplorable performance.
     
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    Once agin why was the fbi going to shut down the Flynn investigation until Strzok intervened with some bs about the Logan act? None of you boot lickers seem willing to answer that.
     
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    Guess nobody wants to talk about the insurance policy.
     
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    The old Squirrel named "Unmask". As if that is the crime, not the friggin fact the Flynn was lying about contacts with foreign governments. Trump FIRED HIM FOR DOING IT!

    It seems trump thinks his voters are so friggin' stupid they won't remember what really happened. Fake news indeed.
     
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    The cons are in a desperate situation with trump as their leader.
    He’s dragging the whole right wing down the rabbit hole trying to blame the entire world for his failures with ever more ridiculous brain farts and they have no alternative than to keep propping him up with lies and trying to bring everyone else down to his deplorable level so he won’t look so bad.
    Notice that nobody defends trump, they just attack everyone else.
     
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    I see you dodged my question.
     
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    Former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, who was fired in February after lying about his contacts with the Russian government, has formally registered with the Justice Department as a “foreign agent” and admitted that he had lobbied on behalf of the Turkish government as recently as November 2016.

    https://www.vox.com/world/2017/3/9/14868680/trump-adviser-michael-flynn-foreign-agent-turkey-lobby
     
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    That appears to be a baldfaced lie. Back it up or retract it.

    OBAMAGATE: The Revolting Inquisition of K.T. McFarland.

    McFarland takes us back to the interviews that the corrupt FBI conducted with her. Their actions were shocking and could have destroyed her life. Since literally any American could be subject to their methodologies, unless key Corrupt FBI leaders are discredited and punished, anyone could be victimized in the same way at any time, for any reason. Her specific story is a cautionary tale regarding the abuse of power in general, and the unethical and immoral actions of a corrupt government agency unchecked.

    McFarland describes her first unexpected encounter with Corrupt FBI agents:

    When they arrived, I was at home alone since my husband had left to run some errands right after I walked in the door.​

    These scummy corrupt bastards had her staked out, waited for her husband to leave and then ambush interviewed her.

    I asked the agents if I needed to have a lawyer present, or have someone with me to take notes. They said while they couldn’t tell me not to have a lawyer present, the only thing they wanted from me was to get a sense of what happened during the transition and at Trump Tower. I naively took them at their word...​

    Big mistake. These are horrible corrupt people and the most dangerous thing is a lawless thug wearing a gun and a badge. The corrupt FBI interviewed her several times for several hours. Each time when she asked about her status, the Lying Bastards insisted she was only a fact witness. She realized fairly early in the process they were setting a perjury trap. Here’s her description of the methodology:

    I found the challenge was in following their format. They would ask rapid fire questions, switching back and forth from one topic to another, and one time period to another, and then circle back to the same questions again, but worded slightly differently. I forced myself to remain on high alert for hours on end, knowing that one slip-up might prove fatal.

    After these general topics they zeroed in on what I had done hour by hour, sometimes minute by minute, during four specific days—the day before Obama imposed sanctions, the day the White House officially sanctioned Russia, the day Putin announced the Russian response, and the day afterward when Flynn called me after I returned home to Long Island to say the Russian Ambassador told him their call had made a difference in Russia’s response. Who did I talk to at Mar-a-Lago? On the Transition team? On the outside? What did we discuss? Why did I call them?​

    Then she was abused by the Senate Select Committee while her husband was in the midst of surgery for aggressive prostate cancer, in case you thought having this committee in the control of Republicans was securing your rights. Rather than allowing her to help him recover, in NY, they demanded she fly to DC, and her attorneys, so they could grill her there.

    She was never a suspect, never suspected of any crime. Once they charged Gen. Flynn, they lost interest in her. She was never accused of anything.

    What you are defending is not just a group of Democrats, Never-Trumpers, and the liberal media, it is an entrenched self-perpetuating Washington Establishment locked into a battle with the American people over who is sovereign. Is it the American electorate or an entrenched Administrative State and the governing class who are using the system to attack anyone who gets in their way?
     
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    EXACTLY!!!!
     
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    If Trump thinks making up lies about Obama prior to the election is gonna help him, he will be in for a surprise, it would only help the left get out the vote
     
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    as far as Flynn, unless Trump pardons the man, he could win in the short term and lose in the long term

     
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    That evidence is so damning, they called the investigation off months beforehand...

    Yet still went forward with it.
     
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    Indeed. The more trump lies about Obama the more people realize what a disgustingly small and weak man occupies the office today.
    And in a month, there may be a lot fewer trump supporters as the virus takes its toll on all the idiots who went out partying on Memorial Day.
     
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    To be fair, Trump hasn't really been trying that hard to win the evangelical vote.

    While he has done some pretty comical stuff in at least two situations I can think of, it's mostly evangelicals that have been flocking to him, mainly due to overlap in demographics (as well as regions of the country).

    Anyway, the "evangelical vote" certainly isn't what it once was (in the 80s for instance) and is on the wane.
     
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    Any examples of that?
     
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