Obama's Betrayal of Israel and Arming of Iran

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  1. HBendor

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    Would Israel be forced to an early reaction? Would that little country be forced to demonstrate how integrity works, how decency is generated or succumb to a duplicitous Jew hater in the White House?

    Obama's Betrayal of Israel and Arming of Iran
    ~Terresa Monroe-Hamilton - NoisyRoom.net, November 8th, 2013

    « The Future of Israel's Nuclear Deterrence. A silver lining to 'leading from behind' »


    Obama’s betrayal of Israel is stunning and completely predictable. It’s right on schedule along with the four horsemen of the Apocalypse. I don’t know how anyone could be surprised by this. Whispers are on the wind that a nuclear deal is within reach between the US and Iran, but the US has already been quietly lifting financial sanctions, enabling the terrorist Islamic state. While Obama and his Muslim acolytes have been busy emboldening, financing and arming Iran to destroy tiny Israel, he has distracted America with a myriad of emergencies and shiny objects all of which spell death to Israel and eventually death to America. The infidels have been duped and Iran is now simulating missile attacks on Israel, getting ready for the big show to come:

    An agreement between the United States and Iran over the latter’s nuclear program seems imminent, but the charm offensive in Geneva is not mirrored at home. In Tehran, the Iranian government sent a different message with a broadcast on state television of a simulated missile attack on Israel.


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    http://unitycoalitionforisrael.org/news/?p=10037
     
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    It's honestly about time, I'd declare war on Israel myself as an apartheid state that has refused to abide by the International Community despite the leeway the community has given it since and even before its inception of 1948. It's also held this American Empire hostage and continues to hold us hostage by not even beginning to negotiate on the Iranian Question.

    Going to war of course would be an extreme measure, simply declaring our neutrality from this failed state will be enough for reform in the Middle East and perhaps a successive end to the war against terrorism, enabling us to bring our American soldiers back from those miserable deserts to enjoy the wealth and prosperity of the Empire.

    Netanyahu's long bragged that he wanted this war, he can have it. But not a single American life will be wasted on his pointless venture.
     
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    Eh, the Iran negotiations are not a big deal. It doesn't place the security of Israel at risk.

    In fact Israel's defense plans don't mean a thing. They are old WW2 tactics that are out of date, and guess what? The USA's own advanced WW2 tactics have been declassified and are now in the public domain.
     
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    I don't believe Israel is endangered by Obama's actions. Frankly I think he has no choice. There is no way the U.S. is going to war to protect Israel, so Obama is trying to reach some kind of a deal with Iran which might protect Israel and keep the peace.
     
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    Bendor where do you get that Obama is a duplictious jew hater?

    tell me you aren't one of those jews who think that anyone that doesn't do what they think is in the best interest of Israel is a jew hater.

    does anyone anywhere actually have proof that Obama has secretly lifted sanctions? Or that he has sold Israel down the river, despite very clear and very definitive statements to the contrary? Where is the evidence that Obama is arming Iran?

    Get back to us when you have more than a story that originated on "beforeitsnews" and has been propagated thru the usual suspect sites over the past 6 days.
     
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    I assume by that you mean the typical Israeli reaction, which is to launch a preemptive military attack? If so then Israel will find itself without any international support, particularly after Iran has been willing to engage in the diplomatic process.

    To suggest that Israel acts with integrity is without merit - an apartheid state responsible for egregious war crimes and human rights abuses cannot be considered a bastion of integrity. Further, to oppose Israel does not make one a "Jew hater" - in fact many Israelis and Jews oppose the actions of the Israeli state, as should any decent person. However, it should be pointed out that Obama has been nothing but supportive of Israel.

    As for the source, can we please have something a bit more objective than 'Unity Coalition for Israel'? I mean, it just isn't reasonable to state that "Obama and his Muslim acolytes have been busy emboldening, financing and arming Iran to destroy tiny Israel" - the statement is patently absurd. It is the Israeli equivalent of Fox News.
     
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    The only person that has betrayed Israel is Netanyahu.. He's made both peace and disarmament impossible.

    Do the Israelis EVER take responsibility for anything?
     
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    Excellent post..

    Bibi's choices are poor. Many Israelis want peace and disarmament .. Bibi is the fly in the ointment which also impacts Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States.
     
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    No one thinks Obama hates Israel or the US betrayed us, that's just fanatic talk nothing serious, but it is a mistake to sign a treaty that lets them develope such weapon, if Israel attacks it would be Israeli responsibility and we wont expect anyone for support, we can take care of ourselves, we might need the US not getting in our way thou.

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    He speaks for them......if you want to count on something you can count on Israeli officials yapping every time some Arab leader smiles at them in a UN corridor.....pathetic....
     
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    On behalf of the American State as a citizen I can assure you, pigs will fly before we get into another middle eastern war. We rallied against Syria, we'll rally all the moreso against Iran. In fact, given years of Iranian propaganda the media has to be disappointed that only neo-cons and the christian far-right believes this crusade to be worth while.

    If Obama brings us to another war, under any kind of pretexts his ass will be impeached. Unless of course we face an imminent threat from which we must respond. Perhaps this hapless parliament will consider "Iran" such a threat despite the logistical disadvantages and the geographical separation of our continents.
     
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    Let's hope Israel does not attack Iran..
     
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    Niether of us speaks for our countries but in my post I didnt ask or count on US assitance, I said we may ask it to stand out of the way.
     
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    What is to be gained by insisting that Iran is an existential threat ... or bombing them?

    Did bombing Syria or Iraq benefit Israel?
     
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    No it didnt but that's not the same case,


    We take into account that Israel will need to continue go into OP's in the future against Gaza and Lebanon perhaps other places in the future (who knows) and the only deterrent the Arabs have against shelling Israel with massive missile attack to destroy it is our Nuke, should Iran have one that too will change and Israel once again will need to compleatly trust its allies, from historical events such compleate dependancy never worked out to any country, that's why Israel will risk war for denying them of Nuke.

    Now my common sense tells me one cannot hold it from them forever so diplomacy should be better even if it means power change in the ME, however I trust the ppl in power to have more knowledge then me on the subject, if they say an attack is a better option I will support it.
     
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    Why not a peaceful solution instead of a continuing land grab?

    Expansion of settlements is certain to support violence and resistance.
     
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    Because its much more then that Margot, 67 lines are admitting to defeat for them so its not a long term solution, I watched a very intersting TV series last night about the early years 1936-1945, full of testimonies including the good the bad and the ugly, I understand the Arab position and this feud will never be over.
     
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    Doesn't look like defeat to me...

    Israel has known for a long long time that Iran needs nuclear power...

    IMO.. Israel doesn't get to decide who can develop their infrastructure and who can't.
     
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    We dont look at it as a single unique event but part of the Arab struggle against us.
     
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    Iran has need to expand its electrical grid since 1970.. Its the only way they can become a modern industrialized nation.

    Jordan also needs nuclear power and desalination.. Israel stopped them.

    One shouldn't have to keep the neighbors in poverty and fear to succeed.
     
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    Its not about that and you know it, they had offers to allow them Nuclear power, they want an indipendant ability and sadly its a risk for us as well to their neighbors.
     
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    Israel has been threatening to bomb Iran for 20 years... and remember they did bomb Iraq and Syria.
     
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    We are trying to prove hostility now? trust me the hostility exists as well as the threat should they have a Nuke.
     
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    Iran would never nuke Israel.. they would be annihilated.. They would kill innocent people and destroy the legacy of the Patriarchs.

    Listen to Bibi's speech.. He gives the same speech every time he addresses Congress.. He starts with Jewish right to the land.... then with persecution in Europe.. Then comes the Holocaust... and he finishes with the "threat" from Iran.
     
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    Obama is playing the long game here. His next step is to start a cultural exchange program with Iran, and the first thing he plans on exporting is Obamacare, followed by his economic team.

    Iran is toast, they just don't know it yet :roflol:
     
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    I told you its not the use of Nukes that's a threat but convetional Misslies that will be shot without care of retaliation,

    I can only say one thing about Bibi, if Israel cannot defend itself against Iran or launch an attack on it then I strongly condem his attempts to get the US to deal with Iran for us, if you cant stand behind your words dont say them, but if Israel is capable of attacking and his actions are just to get a quite approval from the congress to attack - I support his actions. we need that option ready.

    Yet a 3rd option will be a good diplomatic agreement with Iran but that's unlikley they suffred the sanctions thus far just to "break" so close to the finish line.
     
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