Obvious Proof that Legalized Abortion Causes More Abortions

Is that what you call ""I have a point anyway if you read the posts" and similarly well articulated posts?

Lets not stray into territory that is alien to you. Offer some supporting evidence instead.

No, you are looking at a chart and obviously are unable to make heads or tails of it. Much like the one that showed how different groups of people viewed abortion.

So why not offer then reliable data of how many abortions took place before Roe?

 

That was in response to your idiotic assertion that I had no point based on some illogical and nonsensical argument. I pointed out that you were wrong, ....AGAIN!

Says the poster who routinely has to resort to personal attacks and insults just to have something to post.

Well many people here have tried to explain to you how to read a chart, but apparently we have all failed. Oh well, you cannot teach someone who does not want to learn.

That info is unavailable, but the chart shows clearly that abortion frequency skyrocketed after abortion was made legal. Are you claiming that the chart does not show this? That is the evidence you requested.

 

By uttering something incoherent instead of showing why or where I was wrong? On the other hand that IS the best you can do so no surprise there...

The issue in not reading the chart, but proving why it is showing what it is. Of course you can not do that so you deflect like you are doing here.

So for that part you are choosing to make things up as usual?

Yes it does show a raise, but that does not justify the reason you are trying to attribute to it.

 

Pitiful

What it is is factual information showing that abortions increased dramatically immediately after abortion was made legal. Are you claiming that the chart does not show this?

That part is not part of what I am saying. I am saying that immediately after abortion was made legal, the numbers of abortions increased dramatically. That is evidenced by the chart at face value.

It is obviously related.

 

Yes, youar debating abitl;ity is, pathetic even.

the real question is WHY? YOU still can not answer that.

And then decreased. What is your point? You attempted and failed to show that it was legalization that was the cause of the increase and after repeated requests you still can not produce ANYTHING to support that.

 

there is no need for me to even respond to that. It decimates you all by itself.

Easy,because people will do something deemed to be legal more reradily than they will do something illegal.

It is obvious and human nature tells us this. As a general rule people will do what society deems is acceptable (by allowing it to be legal) more readily than something society deems unacceptable.

Do you disagree?

 

LOL, women in the past and in many other countries knew that men are in charge of what is legal or illegal, and those men know little about pregnancy/childbirth. It is ludicrous to those women that men should be making the rules for something they don't understand. Women don't respect those laws nor do they obey them. It is common, expected really, that in patriarchal societies, women just go about doing their business without discussing it with the "men in charge." Most of time, the men don't want to know and don't ask about these things, just so long as their own lives flow along smoothly.

 

So we are back to demonization again as an attempt to distract from the fact that an abortion is a horrifically barbaric premeditated homicide. Well it isn't working Granny!

 

You are making a charge of demonization then go on using terms as "horrifically barbaric premeditated homicide." Your hypocrisy has no bounds.

 

Your inability to understand logic knows no bounds. I am demonizing abortion, you know the subject at hand? Not people. But I suppose you see no difference.

Abortion is a horrifically barbaric procedure. That is undeniable.

 

Because you and a bunch of ignorant zealots say so?

 

This is truly sad.

How would any reasonable peson describe the tearing apart limb from limb of a living child in utero by a high powered suction device?

 

How you debate, yes.

Please spare us your emotional BS.

 

Dodging eh? Typical.

 

Dodging what your emotional appeal?

 

What's "demonizing" about my statement above? More to the point, what's untrue about it? BTW, abortion is neither horrific, barbaric, nor homicide. What is horrific and barbaric is forced childbirth.

 

Anyone who thinks the tearing apart of a live child in utero by a high powered suction device isn't barbaric is severely delusional.

 

You would prefer they be removed whole and intact at 6-10 weeks then?

Either way the fetus will die as early as that. Are you arguing against the way the procedure is done or are you arguing against allowing women to remove zef's from their wombs before viability?

Because if one of those specific procedures disturbs you then perhaps you'd be more in favor of a woman taking an abortifacient and her body essentially having a miscarriage instead and expelling the zef in that manner.

 

It is necessary to use gentle suction. Many choose medical abortion nowadays, you can't tell the difference from a miscarriage. Here's what a 12 week abortion looks like, think it's barbaric? If you think that's barbaric, google and watch a video of a live natural birth.

http://www.eileen.250x.com/Main/FET_DEV.PIC/12weeks.htm

 

The process and the end result are both deplorable.

 

Yes I consider it barbaric. Any rational person would.

 

Even if it's essentially a forced miscarriage? Because miscarriages naturally happen all the time and I don't think there's any thing 'deplorable' about that. It's certainly sad if the fetus was wanted, but not 'deplorable'.

 

Yes! Using your logic we should be able to kill people at will by inducing a heart attack through poison, because hey they happen sometimes naturally anyway.


Would this poisoning murder be deplorable? Why? Heart attacks happen naturally sometimes right? Are naturally occurring heart attacks deplorable.


Your rationale is silly.

 

Except induced miscarriages don't generally harm the woman here. An induced heart attack does hurt a person.

 

iT CERTAINLY KILLS THE CHILD IN UTERO THOUGH, Just as a heart attack kills its victim, correct?