Ocasio-Cortez declares VA ‘isn’t broken,’ already provides top-notch care

"Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., claimed during a recent town hall event that the Department of Veterans Affairs “isn’t broken" and is actually providing “some of the highest quality” care to veterans."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/oc...a-isnt-broken-already-provides-top-notch-care

Depends on which VA facility the vet goes to. Some are ok but the others are substandard and do not even go into a VA Nursing Home...

 

Veterans are doing much better now thanks to Trump and his veteran's bill giving them choice.

They no longer are required to go to the VA only for their care.

 

True and thank God for this...

 

How past administrations have treated our veterans is just disgraceful.

Trump ran on changing that and it was one of the very first things he did, even sailed it through congress since they all knew the change was a good one.

Thank you Mr. Trump for protecting the people that protect us every day.

 

This has been true long before Trump took office. Obama signed the Veterans' Access to Care through Choice, accountability, and Transparency act of 2014.

The Bill allows vets' like me to access care outside the VA when it is in our best interest to do so.

So, I'm not really sure why you would claim it was Trump's doing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veter..._Accountability,_and_Transparency_Act_of_2014

 

So you are claiming, and let's get this straight, that the Trump bill passed by congress was simply redundant and did nothing to help veterans.

That is what you are saying right?

Obama had already fixed all of this?

 

Obama didn't fix it. Congress did. And, a lot of Bills have redundancy. The Bill I cited was the most bipartisan Bill of the Obama presidency and it specifically addressed VA medical care. And no, the trump Bill wasn't unique or special, and it barely touched actual VA medical care. What it did do was improve services for transitioning soldiers and to streamline the new post-9/11 GI Bill tuition payments, which was a worthy cause, to be sure. But, it wasn't the VA fix you claim it to be.

I know this because A. I am a rated military veteran entitled to lifelong VA care. B. I am a GI Bill tuition recipient, and C. I am a former VA nurse.

It really would help you're cause if you were to, at a minimum, understand what you are talking about.

 

Trump got two VA bills passed.

As a vet who claims to know this stuff you should have known that.

Do I need to link them to you or are you going to explain how you already know them because you experience them from being a vet?

lol

 

I addressed both Bills in the sentence "What it did do was improve services for transitioning soldiers and to streamline the new post-9/11 GI Bill tuition payments". My apologies to you for not delineating between the two.

https://rebootcamp.militarytimes.co...to-hold-va-accountable-for-gi-bill-screw-ups/

https://rebootcamp.militarytimes.co...vets-and-others-is-now-headed-to-trumps-desk/

The two Bills are siblings, in a sense. Give it a rest. Neither specifically addressed VA MEDICAL CARE, which is what this thread is about.

 

I did miss you addressing both bills, my apologies on that.

This thread is about the VA not being broken, which I think it still is but if it isn't it's partly because of Trumps work on it as well as others. Regardless of the exact thing Trumps bills addressed they were needed and it did improve the system, they weren't useless bills.

 

I never said they were useless. In fact, I actually commended them. Still you stated that through Trump's Bills "They no longer are required to go to the VA only for their care." This statement is utterly false, as I have already shown. Neither of Trump's' Bills impacted VA medical care to any extent because that was taken care of by the bipartisan Bill signed in to law by Obama.

Obama Signs VA Bill to Open Outside Care to Veterans:

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/7/obama-signs-va-bill-open-outside-care-veterans/

This is a fact that you seem to proud to admit.

 

Many VA hospitals are very good, some not. Most of the outpatient clinics are outstanding.

 

Agreed. My local VA Hospital, Loma Linda, is, virtually, across the street from Loma Linda University Healthcare, one of the pre-eminent teaching hospitals in the nation, and hundreds of residents train at the VA with guidance from LLU. I couldn't be happier with the care I have received over the years. But, the same is true of Long Beach VA, and the Greater Los Angeles VA, including their satellite outpatient Sepulveda campus, which is basically a full size hospital on it's own. Loma Linda VA recently completed a sprawling outpatient campus as well. Everything I need, from Radiology, Physical Therapy, Audiology, and Pharmacy are available under one roof. I don't even need to go to the main campus unless it's for surgery.

Which is why I don't understand people bashing the VA system as a whole. Survey after survey has shown that us veterans are extremely happy with the care we receive. Is it perfect? No. But, no healthcare system will ever be.

Trump's Bills act as bookends to the massive overhaul that occured as the result of the 2014 Law. I wasn't kidding when I said the it was the most bipartisan Bill of the Obama presidency.

Taking partisan potshots at the VA, or people claiming that the VA is doing a good job, as was the point of this thread, or blaming this or that president for problems within the system, is counterproductive, un-American, and unpatriotic.

 

Over the last three decades, I have been treated at two different VA facilities...and I feel I have had better treatment at them than at the occasional non-VA facilities I've been to.

The moaning and groaning about the VA for political purposes is an absurdity.

The notion that Trump, or anyone in his administration, has improved anything at these facilities is dreaming by Trump sycophants.

 

Well

This thread just got decided.

 

As a vet, she’s lost her frigging mind; i.e., if “losing your mind” means “unable to grasp reality”.

 

Intelligence is humbling. The more you know, the more you realize just how much you don’t yet know.

This stump AOC is too stupid to realize she is dense.

 

The most dangerous people in the world are the idiots who are too stupid to know their idiots. Idiots electing idiots is very dangerous.

 

Once again, AOC provides a treasure trove of brilliance.

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it," Ocasio-Cortez, 29, said, insisting the VA provides "some of the highest quality" healthcare for veterans. She said people who advocate for a privatized VA are only trying to fix it in favor of pharmaceutical companies.

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Seriously.... How can ANYONE take this women seriously when she absolutely has NO idea what she is talking about.

Nearly 100 patients died waiting for care from Los Angeles VA

 

I thought you guys said Trump has made the VA the best it has ever been.

MWAGA.

 

Who said that? Making it better would mean that the government was removed 100%. Trump, however, has done more for the VA than any of his predecessors under the Veterans Administration Reform act..

 

Well as a veteran who deals with the VA I disagree, maybe some other vets on this forum have had better luck with it.

 

Some here are not listening to the facts that the VA gives great service.

 

So you agree that the VA is still in shambles or do you agree with AOC that the VA is "some of the highest quality" of care?

 

You can't pick up a turn by the clean end. You can try to polish it but that has never proven to be successful.