Officials warn ISIS still has money and fighters, and is gaining strength in Iraq and Syria

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

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    If Bush/Obama pullout from Iraq was a mistake which gave birth to ISIS, then is seems Trump is hell-bent on repeating the mistake in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan.

    Officials warn ISIS still has money and fighters, and is gaining strength in Iraq and Syria
    https://theweek.com/speedreads/8599...ll-money-fighters-gaining-strength-iraq-syria

    Despite its fractured leadership, the Islamic State is gaining strength in Iraq and Syria, conducting frequent guerrilla attacks and once again beheading people in public, U.S. and Iraqi military and intelligence officers told The New York Times.

    ISIS was pushed out of its last bit of territory in Syria five months ago, but it still has an estimated 18,000 fighters, and more and more are being recruited at Al Hol, a tent camp in northern Syria housing 70,000 people — many of them relatives of ISIS fighters. American intelligence officials said they consider this camp, managed by Syrian Kurds, a breeding ground for future terrorists.

    President Trump has ordered troops out of Syria, but a recent inspector general's report said this has made it harder to support Syrian allies fighting ISIS, and they are only able to focus on keeping militants out of urban areas. In July, Trump said the U.S. and allies did "a great job," but it's time for troops to leave. "We'll be out of there pretty soon," he added. "And let them handle their own problems."

    ISIS sleeper cells in Syria and Iraq are carrying out assassinations, abductions, and sniper attacks, conducting 139 deadly attacks in northern and western Iraq during the first six months of the year. Earlier this month, a police officer in a rural village two hours north of Baghdad was publicly beheaded by armed men who said they were part of ISIS.
     
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    Trump won't want to hear it. He'll probably tell everyone it's fake news, just the liberal media trying to make him look bad. And the deplorables will believe him, too.
     
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    So let me get this straight. We defeat ISIS in Iraq, then we leave Iraq due to pressure from the far left. Then ISIS comes right back once we are gone..

    Hmmm who could have ever anticipated that??
    Besides everyone of course.
     
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    I never looked like Washington actually defeated ISIS. Push them back, yes. Win back territory, yes. Defeat in the sense of "they are no longer there", no.
     
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    Just like Vietnam, win then leave and let the bad guys take over.
     
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    Off topic on. The US lost in Vietnam and was never in a position to really win that conflict. Off topic off.
    Regarding ISIS, I for one wouldn't be surprised if they re-emerged.
     
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    I don't think you are getting it straight. What pressure from the 'far left'?

    Is there anything Trump and his loyalists will take responsibility for? Apparently not.
     
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    ISIS was formed in Camp Bucca prison in Iraq in 2003-4.
     
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    You don't remember the anti war propaganda? protests , marches thank kind of thing? you don't remember them yelling at Bush to get out then Obama slowly drawing down the numbers..... and on and on and on
     
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    That's ok. We'll find them and kill them again.
     
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    So they say, but it was just something which evolved from Al Qaeda and the situation during Iraq war (Iraq = the university of terror).
     
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    Al Qaeda wasn't in Iraq. ISIS is made up of Baathist Sunnis who were in Saddam's military.
     
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    And you think US pulled out because of bunch of anti-war protesters.....? Seriously? One day the main-stream Republicans need to learn to be accountable as opposed to trying to blame others for their own actions. When Obama took office, the pull-out was already in full swing.
     
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    Of course Al Qaeda was in Iraq while we were there.
     
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    America lost the Vietnam War in America not on the battlefields of Southeast Asia.
     
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    Not until AFTER Bush's invasion.
     
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    Yep. You can't win a war unless you actually want to win.
     
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    Wow, Trump is now the far left, who woulda thunk it?
     
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    Correct. Once we went in, they started crawling out of the woodwork. We were like honey attracting the bees, or blood attracting the sharks.
     
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    Bush, Cheney and the PNAC signatories simply implemented Israel's Clean Break Strategy.
     
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    Bush had already signed the SOFA and installed Maliki .. a Shia and Iranian stooge.
     
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    Not so much.. They headed for Yemen.
     
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    Yeah and it was a mistake, i don't care who we blame quire frankly.
     
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    Another mistake.
     

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