Ohio bill orders doctors to ‘reimplant ectopic pregnancy’ or face 'abortion murder' charges

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    Who is this "we" you refer to?

    I am not curious as to why Anti-Choicers can't answer questions or address facts ;) ;)



    BTW, everyone, even the President, uses emojis…:) :)
     
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    Name one
     
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    You don't make sense. You use the 'Choice' label like a blanket to hide behind so the monsters can't see you. The fight is between pro abortion and anti abortion ideologies. Nobody cares what kind of birth control you choose.
     
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    More childish emojis? Why can't you guys just speak English?
     
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    What's the difference?
     
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    You tell me.
     
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    You expect me to express your opinion?

    No, you made the claim, so you need to tell me why anti-abortion and anti-choice are not the same thing in your opinion.
     
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    Pro choice is pro abortion. Anti abortion is anti abortion. I have made that argument since this got started yesterday and have been told that I am mistaken. Pro choice sounds ever so much nicer than pro abortion even though the latter is the whole purpose.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    That's what some have been trying to tell you.

    "Choice" in "Pro-Choice" is not generic, it refers to the choice between gestation or abortion and nothing else.


    Who is ignoring it ?.....it doesn't enter into the dispute.

    If there is only one option there is no CHOICE.




    Too many "hearts" ? Or too many facts ? :)

    My post above was met with a "nevermind" ??

    How about a "Ya, that makes sense" ?



    What TF does that mean? You believe in monsters??

    WHAT TF am I "hiding behind" in the post you quoted?



    I didn't mention BC or who the fight is between.

    Maybe try reading the posts you quote first before replying ??
     
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    They are the same.
     
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    NO, once again (and again and again and again)...Pro-Choice is about women retaining the right to bodily autonomy and being free to make their own CHOICE.


    I am sorry if you don't have a dictionary.
     
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    Amazing, nearly every word you typed was wrong.

    Abstinence does not work because of the very high failure rate of people trying to be abstinent. While it can be found to be successful in individual cases the failure rate among a population is high. Even so, I firmly believe it should be merely one of many approaches on the list for preventing unwanted pregnancy. Because as poor a method as it is for a population, it will be the thing for someone.

    The same is true of education. Knowledge may be power but loads of people have the knowledge and do the wrong thing anyway. Still, some are helped, so education in the value of avoiding unplanned pregnancy has value.

    Contraception is available in many forms and all of them are vastly superior to abstinence and education.

    The gun banning logic does not work as it is overly simplistic. It is not possible to remove all the guns, or all the swimming pools or all the knives. Those are fantasies, not logic.
     
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    No they are not.
     
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    The right to choose what?
     
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    LOL! Here's one of your "points" that has no proof or backup but you think if it's repeated enough it will , magically, come true...


    It won't . :)
     
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    The solution to abortion is simple really. If the self named pro life we're to join planned Parenthood in preventing unplanned pregnancies the subject becomes moot. People with jobs are rarely junkies so rather than waste money fighting drugs invest in jobs.
    Same goes for armed robbery.
    People not oppressed don't migrate.
    Women who don't get pregnant don't have abortions.
    Far too often we treat the symptoms rather than the cause.
     
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    I'm not the one saying nobody's opinion matters unless they're women.
     
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    Telling me that the only way you can have an opinion on this is if your female is sexist and rude.

    you're going to have to come up with something better than you're being polite cuz you're not.
     
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    It ISN'T going anywhere, it is just a bunch of Radical RW Fringe in the Ohio GOP...:salute:
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Why should a fetus have rights shoving women's rights into the back seat?

    "Everyone else" has the right of bodily autonomy....why don't you want women to have the same right "everyone else" has???
    (UNANSWERED QUESTION )


    NO one advocates giving women more rights....but Anti-Choicers advocate giving fetuses more rights than ANYONE else..



    WHERE in the post of mine you quoted did I say you did?

    HINT: I didn't.
     
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    I made a post to someone else you responded to it.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Why should a fetus have rights shoving women's rights into the back seat?

    "Everyone else" has the right of bodily autonomy....why don't you want women to have the same right "everyone else" has???
    (UNANSWERED QUESTION )


    NO one advocates giving women more rights....but Anti-Choicers advocate giving fetuses more rights than ANYONE else..





    WHERE in the post of mine you quoted did I say you did?

    HINT: I didn't.





    Anyone can reply to anyone here.

    YOU replied to the post above about something I never said......why would anyone do that???

    :) So many UNanswered questions ….:) I wonder why that is ….
     
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