OK Libs, Black Wedding Planner refuses service......

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  1. Battle3

    Battle3 Well-Known Member

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    I quoted your own words. You claimed denial of service was oppression, and that a person could deny service based on her personal feelings. Your position destroys every aspect of the rule of law and social order.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I did say denial of service was oppression - I did not say that a person could deny service based on personal feelings. This is a misrepresentation - a straw man.

    There are certain cases where personal feelings "may" be considered a justification for denial of service but, only in conjunction with other factors (in this case based on the name of the establishment being served which is a big part of the equation).

    As posted to you earlier - each case has to be considered on it's own merits. Further, I stated that I do not know if I agree with this woman.
     
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    This.

    The woman is undoubtedly a moron. It really does no good for the fight against actual racism when people like this are constantly morally outraged by total non-events which are in no way racially charged. Reminds me of a few people I know who wear their misguided and clueless moral outrage like a badge of honour, it's embarrassing.
     
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    Funny thing is....
    When I ran a business, it wasn't with the intention of turning business down cause I could get my panties in a wad over an issue of personal desires..
     
  5. Battle3

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    In your post, first you say a person could not deny service because of their feelings - then you say a person can deny service because of their feelings. Your gymnastics in attempting to justify oppression in one case and convict a person in another duplicate case proves the point of this OP - that libs are hypocrites, and their motivation is not equality but hatred of religion.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't blame me for you lack of reading comprehension.
     
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    Only if her clients are racists. Are they? And again, what sort of flaming bigot actually mentions race in the ownership of her business? A business declaring such a thing in my country would be boycotted to death in an instant - regardless of which race it was.
     
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    Yes it is going to take a hell of a lot more. It's going to take STOPPING. I thought that was the point of the exercise?
     
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    I live in Bristol UK. Recently one of my favourite Caribbean restaurants closed down:
    1. http://plantationrestaurant.biz/
     
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    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I guess none of them?....

    https://officialblackwallstreet.com/business-directory/

    And I believe the appropriate response is Bwa-Ha-Ha-Ha
     
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    This is a load of Dingoes kidneys, no-where in the U.S. are there Plantations with Slaves, so how does a Wedding at one have any problem, unless Slavery is a theme at this particular Wedding ?

    And no Gay Wedding has asked for Anyone to participate, a Cake made for a Wedding is not participating at all, Neither is Catering a Wedding.......

    Religious Beliefs should have nothing to do with how others live their lives.

    Each person should choose how they wish to live, with no cohersion by anyone else.
     
  12. Battle3

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    Then why do you want to force people to live according to your wishes? Why do you want to force someone to work against their will (look up the definition of slavery)?
     
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    That is your hang up dude.

    I am not for Slavery, currently, except for slackers, most people work for a living, some call that Slavery, and if that is what you think Work is.

    I do not force anyone to do anything.

    A Bakery sells cakes, for weddings etc....

    A Gay couple wants a cake for their wedding and that business owner(s) decides they do not service Gays, Blacks, Asians etc.....

    Discrimination.

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  14. Battle3

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    That's wrong, you don't understand the 2 cases at all. Both the Christian bakers served LGBT's, and with no issue or reservation. The bakers refused to participate in a same sex wedding. One (Jack Phillips) offered to bake for the gay couple a wedding cake sans specific decorations. The other baker (Melissa) may have made the same offer but I don't remember.

    It was not about the people at all. It was about the activity.

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    When you force someone to do something against their will, to spend their time and effort and resources against their will, you are imposing slavery.

    A person may think of their job as slavery because they don't like it, but nobody is forcing him under threat of prison to go to work, much less go to work at a specific task.
     
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