OK....your DEAD....now what?

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  1. TNHarley

    TNHarley Well-Known Member

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    I think we just die and thats it.
    I dont believe in man made gods, so i dont believe in souls.
     
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    People have enough egotism to desire and hence believe in an afterlife. But unfortunately, there is no evidence of it.
     
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    Scientific theory is, nothing is ever destroyed, only transmuted....including you....including your consciousness. Good luck with that.
     
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    I am hoping to get AboveAlpha a number of fans within Judaism.........
    who could link him up with some seriously powerful former Jews
    who have gone on to bigger and better things in the afterlife.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...s-for-the-role-of-elijah-needed.499830/page-3
     
  5. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you would like to read of some research that impressed me back in the early 1990's just google the name Helen Wambach Ph. D.

    Here is a good one page summary of her research:

    http://www.carolmoore.net/articles/helenwambach.html
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have got to remember to read this in full as soon as I have some more free time.

    I suspect it will fit with:

    Where did Intelligence begin, in matter or fundamental energy?


    The first Intelligence began in.....?

    1. Carbon based life less than 5 billion years ago, on earth.
      7 vote(s)
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    2. Carbon based life in outer space.
      2 vote(s)
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    3. *
      Fundamental or nearly fundamental energy.
      5 vote(s)
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    4. This is a new question that I am only now facing.
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  7. XploreR

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    I used to believe there was no evidence for genuine UFOs or for an afterlife. I was wrong on both. My father's corpse at his burial convinced me to open my mind and examine the evidence for a possible afterlife; my wife's gentle persuasions convinced me to examine the evidence for UFOs with an equally open mind. I found (to my surprise) an abundance of evidence supporting the verity of both. Skepticism coupled with an open mind that values truth and is willing to examine the evidence is an asset. Skepticism coupled to a mind derisive toward evidence and uncaring about truth, is a danger to both the owner and the society they are part of.
     
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    Mother nature pioneered recycling.
     
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    There's evidence for this stuff?
     
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    the big sleep, dirt nap, worm food...it's all over...I'm good with that and I'll welcome it when the time comes...
     
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    Yeah, there are still no credible reasons to believe otherwise, wyly.

    These believers in some god and an afterlife are weak and delusional, in my view...
     
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    religion was invented in a response to primitive mans fear of the unknown...then that fear was exploited by a priest/shaman class to con wealth, food and sex from the gullible...
     
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    Tons. You're right, 10,000 people can claim that the Earth is flat, but that doesn't make it so. But, when you look into what is called "Near Death Experiences" (NDEs), you find a striking number of commonalities shared by them all. These redundant areas of commonality form a powerful and convincing framework of evidence that supports the truth of life after physical death. Several of the early medical doctors who researched the issue, began their studies with the intent of disproving the whole idea, but when faced with the mounting incontestable evidence, were forced to conclude the evidence couldn't be based on anything other than a real, genuine, memorable experience in a parallel dimension of reality after the death of their physical body. There's a lot of solid, scientific studies out there that have been forced by evidence to accept the truth of this. Review them with an open mind and learn what they can teach you about a subject that affects us all. Best regards.
     
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    near death experience? yeah I had one...what did I see, nada...just darkness...

    commonality of experience is BS, it's just people thinking they recall something when it's actually just something they picked up from hearing other stories and applying it to themselves...NDE is no more valid then all those stories of satan worshipers that so many claimed to have first hand knowledge of or the alien abductions craze and the commonality of anal probes LOL...
     
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    Exactly... .and it is in my opinion more than merely neat that
    String Theory implies higher invisible dimensions of space - time.
    These higher invisible dimensions.......
    sure reminds me of the four higher dimensions reported by Dr. George Ritchie back in 1943 long before String Theory was explained in high school level English.


    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/george-ritchie.html#a05
     
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    Well said.......
    I began researching near death experience accounts with a bias against them because they quickly made it impossible for me to continue to belong to the church that I had been involved with since I had been a teenager.

    The Worldwide Church of God had a dogmatic Soul Sleep teaching that I could no longer believe in after reading several of Dr. Raymond Moody's books on near death experiences.

    https://www.near-death.com/experiences/notable/george-ritchie.html#a05c
     
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    I'm afraid there is no evidence for any life after death.
     
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    Given this fact, why aren't people just nicer to each other? Even some scientists have made a compelling case for the existence of Jesus, and other biblical teachings.

     
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    I'm afraid you're not looking. :)
     
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    I should remind Tecoyah of that offer!

    That is a good one! Way to go if you are involved in QAnon!

    Word has it you and the gang have gotten President Trump through at least a dozen close ones already!


    QAnon... who could it be?

    Oh.... Latter day Saints actually have a pretty good teaching on multiple levels in the afterlife.......

    ... but you may find this concept even more intriguing.....


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...aving-the-usa-constitution-and-dollar.570833/
     
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    "EVEN some scientists"???

    Scientists have religious views just like everyone else.

    Science doesn't oppose or preclude religion.

    I would just hope that people aren't building their religion on science, as science has nothing at all to say about religion.
     
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    This may get some Christians going but... in a way... it could be said that I worship a "G-d of forces!"

    www.CarbonBias.blogspot.ca/

    Daniel 11:38
    "But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things."
     
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    The difference between that blog and theoretical physics is that theoretical physics involves concrete models that are mathmatically consistent with physics.

    And there is nothing whatsoever in that blog that has anything to do with that.

    I'd really rather see religion and science (even theoretical physics) kept apart, as the nonsense that comes from trying to stir them together is just plain offensive.
     
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    I think that Chaim Henry Tejman M. D. did a great job of linking them together.... you are of course free to disagree.


    http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/fund/fund1.htm



    http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/fund/fund3.htm


    http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/gender/g1.htm

    http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/book/life1.htm

     
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    I don't see anything more than handwaving.

    This happens frequently - people want their ideas to be seen has having a foundation in reality.

    If he had any valid idea, there would be many references to this guy.

    Show me a reference by someone other than you or him and IS from someone who has physics credentials.

    Don't you check these guys out AT ALL??
     

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