Okay Theists....Prove GOD exists.

Uh, sorry but you have one small flaw. Life is composed completely from the elements of the universe. There isn't a single element in any biological system that is not made of star stuff.

Ergo, your argument is flawed.

 

The only way you get the goodies after you are dead is by blind faith. What a great scam to keep people in line and the cash flowing.

 

Actually all I am doing is throwing the same question at Christians that they throw at Atheists.....in reverse.

 

I have never seen a thread which asks "prove God does not exist, but don't use any actual proof".

 

I see...so the Atheist .....
"Prove God Doesn't Exists"
Is equally silly?

 

The Bible(s) are not a proof.

 

Try to think of the Bible as a huge collection of eyewitness accounts of human interaction with offworld beings spanning thousands of years of earth history. There are 66 separate books in the Bible (below), how many more do you need?..
Genesis
Exodus
Leviticus
Numbers
Deuteronomy
Joshua
Judges
Ruth
1 Samuel
2 Samuel
1 Kings
2 Kings
1 Chronicles
2 Chronicles
Ezra
Nehemiah
Esther
Job
Psalms
Proverbs
Ecclesiastes
Song of Solomon
Isaiah
Jeremiah
Lamentations
Ezekiel
Daniel
Hosea
Joel
Amos
Obadiah
Jonah
Micah
Nahum
Habakkuk
Zephaniah
Haggai
Zecharia
Malachi
Matthew
Mark
Luke
John
The Acts
Romans
1 Corinthians
2 Corinthians
Galatians
Ephesians
Phillipians
Colossians
1 Thessalonians
2 Thessalonians
1 Timothy
2 Timothy
Titus
Philemon
Hebrews
James
1 Peter
2 Peter
1 John
2 John
3 John
Jude
Revelation

 

The Bible is evidence. It is a compilation of the most trustworthy documents, particularly the New Testament. When your premise is that the Bible cannot be used, you prejudge and bias the question and answer.

Its like asking someone to discuss the Trojan War but not allowing any use of Homer.

 

These are not eyewitness accounts....they are documented retellings that have been edited and revised by hundreds of people over thousands of years. Some in fact can be traced back even further to previous stories written about someone elses God.

 

If the Bible(s) are your "Most Trustworthy" evidence then you have no proof....hell all you need do is research the Council of Nicea to dismiss it as useful evidence....unless you are okay with edited revisions and doctored data being submitted.

 

1- But why on earth would anybody make it up and get themselves killed by the snooty priestly Establishment as many of the prophets (including Jesus) were?
2- Also, if the Bible has been edited over the centuries to tidy it up and make it look good, why are there still 'contradictions' in it as atheists claim?

 

That's your prejudice. If you can prove the Bible is false, then go for it. I can't wait to see it.

 

Because faith trumps reason?

Because those contradictions are necessary to deal with a variety of "earthly" matters? Like slaying ones enemies despite your god's commandment "thou shalt not kill" and an "eye for an eye".
As for those contradictions they are there for all to see. There is no "claim" its a fact. But isn't resolving those contradictions a big part of what apologetics is all about?

 

That isn't the reason so many Christians are opposed to more Harry Potter books, is it?

The volume of literature on the religions of the world is certainly huge, but I doubt it's a great idea to chose one's belief system based on the size of the literature.

 

Take your pick..-

 

I'm not really interested in the thread anymore, but I have a question for you. Do you believe that the bible is true? All of it? The creation, the garden, Adam and Eve, the talking snake, the flood, the boat? That the Earth is 6000 years old? And if you do, that's fine. I'd just like to know.

 

I haven't seen a "soul" in any anatomy books. Where is it?

See here's the difference between me and you...you have been manipulated (indoctrinated) since before you could walk into the notions of gods and souls. The people doing this were your parents, your preachers, your relatives. You never had a chance.

Now, just who do you think my manipulative masters are. Please do tell me so I can stop kissing their boots.

Death is when the brain no longer functions. The body will be gone shortly thereafter via cremation (does that count as burning in hell?).

Who "they"? Please tell me. I never got paid for my soul - I want my money!

 

All those who work iniquity is "they".

 

Demanding proof for gods, or the lack thereof, is disingenuous. However, it is fair to ask for evidence. The bible cannot be considered as evidence. You wouldn't accept the Koran as evidence for Allah, would you? So, present some evidence for the existence of your god.

 

Demanding proof for gods, or the lack thereof, is disingenuous. However, it is fair to ask for evidence. The bible cannot be considered as evidence. You wouldn't accept the Koran as evidence for Allah, would you? So, present some evidence for the existence of your god.

 

God is in you. Your knowledge of good and evil proves God.

Again, either guiltless, or guilty, nobody else needs to know, for you yourself know. This is the knowledge of good and evil. And what leaves all of us without excuse.

Another.............
it is known that in order to determine a design/creation requires intelligence, thus it is obvious the design/creation is of intelligence. For example, in order to reverse engineer a smart phone, requires intelligence, just as it does to create the phone to begin with. This is self evident and applicable in everything on the matter.

To determine the anatomy of a human, requires intelligence, just as does to create the human in the first place.

 

That is an excellent analogy! You do know that Homer's Trojan Wars are mythology, don't you?

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/05/0514_040514_troy.html

To get the real story, we have to ignore Homer and turn to science.

Does that sound familiar?
The bible says that God initiated a Great Flood that covered the Entire earth. That is the myth. The myth cannot be evidence for itself.

The reality is that intense flooding, perhaps from a tsunami, killed many people. No one questions that intense flooding occurred in many places. These floods are not the Great Flood and are not evidence for a god.

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You've made the point that you don't believe this cartoon of yours.

And, you shouldn't. First of all, everything on that science shelf involves god in exactly zero ways - fully atheistic.

Beyond that, there is a whole world of secularism out there to read about.

 

There is absolutely no evidence that the entire earth was covered in water as described in Genesis.
There is overwhelming evidence that the entire earth was not covered in water as described in Genesis.

If Bishop Ussher read the genealogies correctly the Earth is ~6000 years old.
There is absolutely no evidence that the Earth is 6000 years old.
There is overwhelming evidence that the Earth is not 6000 years old.

I don't ask you to prove the Bible is true. I just ask for evidence supporting that view.

 

Your physical body is a host for your soul (you). And your soul (you) are indeed eternal. So if you don't want to die your second death, perhaps you should look to the one who loves you unconditionally, and who will give you eternal life. And the only thing you have to do, is believe in Jesus, and love thy neighbor as thyself. There is no harm brought to anybody if we all did this.
So what is your problem with Christians?