Oklahoma Dad Allegedly Murders Son, 13, by Shooting at Truck He Thought Was Stolen

"An Oklahoma father is accused of murder in the fatal shooting of his teenage son last weekend, PEOPLE confirms. Authorities and the man’s family said he mistook the boy for someone who was stealing the family’s truck."
http://people.com/crime/oklahoma-man-allegedly-kills-teenage-son-shooting-truck/

What would you do if you thought someone was stealing your car? Take out your AR-15 and blast away?

 

The article does not say what type of firearm was used.

And blasting away is only an option you and Joe Biden recommend, I have never blasted away at anyone, first, one must identify and know ones target, and what is behind it, before firing.

This is indeed a tragic loss that only a true sociopath would use to further an Anti Gun Agenda.

 

No, I have insurance. Thanks for asking.

 

Pray tell, exactly what can be done in an effort to "prevent tragedies" that has not been done already? Exactly what piece of proposed legislation would have prevented this act from occurring? What legislative restriction would have prevented the father in question from shooting at the motor vehicle in an illegal and reckless manner?

 

no, u cannot shoot someone for stealing your car

 

I'm for citizens being allowed to own guns - but I wonder how this particular guy is feeling about his right to own a gun just now.

 

cops are not allowed to shoot at someone stealing a car.

why should citizens?

 

Not at 1:45 a.m. In full daylight maybe take out a tire, or the radiator at about harmonic balancer elevation.

 

Perhaps not outside of the united states, but within the united states law enforcement officers are legally allowed to shoot someone in the back, even if they are fleeing or surrendering, if they claim they believed it was necessary to do such.

Pray tell, exactly what part of the report of this incident suggests the father in question was engaged in activities he was allowed to do?

 

ONLY if the fleeing person was carrying a weapon.

cops cannot and do not shoot a perp SIMPLY for fleeing.

the fleeing perp must be seen as a danger to other persons, justifying the use of deadly force.

 

Probably isn’t thinking about the question of rights at all. I doubt many parents think about car ownership after running over their child in a driveway; their world just ended.

 

That may be the only statement you have made where we have shared agreement.

I tell my students, there are only two reasons to shoot some one; to prevent yourself from the immediate threat of great bodily harm or death or prevent that threat for another... this includes police and citizens. Theft of property when a thief is leaving the scene doen’t fit either threat scenario.

 

You never shoot at someone unless your life is being threatened.

His truck being stolen is not a life threatening situation. Unless the driver was trying to run him over.

 

I am curious. What, honestly, was your motive for the OP?

 

Better training could have made a difference. People who own guns should be educated about when it's legal to shoot someone and when it is not. But do you really care or do you value unrestricted access to guns above all else?

 

Could have, should have, if, all things likely to run through a parent’s head when they back over their child in a driveway. As for training, in this situation, you have no clue the training background of the father in question, you just wanted to stand on his dead child’s body to make a point.

 

Ooooooh! Just about any rational gun legislation

 

Which would do what? It is already illegal in most States to intentionally shoot anyone for any reason other than to protect life, even a fleeing criminal.

 

But that is legislation after the fact

 

I think it's good to discuss it, hopefully will make others think before they pull the trigger.....

 

owning a gun is a constitutional right.... so the government can not mandate training, they can recommend training, offer it free to those that want it

make it a required class in highschool

 

ah... precious.

 

Like driver’s training, training isn’t a cure all.

 

Actually to a degree you are right as even the Eddie Eagle training has little proven effect

Perhaps though we should take a more Pavlovian approach and have a smart gun that delivers a shock to the holder every time they go to do something stupid with it

 

Regarding Eddie Eagle, you have no clue of it’s effectiveness for those that engaged in the program.

The left already has a Pavlovian response, it’s always the gun’s fault and place blame on the NRA rather than criminals that abuse weapons. And, the dogs lap the narrative up.